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Re: FL: Active shooter at high school in South Florida

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Post by Boxerrider » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:50 am

Warns about logical fallacies, and then makes one.

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Re: FL: Active shooter at high school in South Florida

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Post by Gator Guy » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:03 am

https://www.policeone.com/active-shoote ... -massacre/

Scot Peterson runs and hides again.
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Re: FL: Active shooter at high school in South Florida

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Post by bblhd672 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:00 pm

Hide, deny, spin, threaten: How the school district tried to mask failures that led to Parkland shooting
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/brow ... story.html
School administrators insist that they have been as transparent as possible; that federal privacy laws prevent them from revealing the school record of gunman Nikolas Cruz; that discussing security in detail would make schools more dangerous; and that answers ultimately will come when a state commission releases its initial findings about the shooting around New Year’s.
Nine months after the Parkland shooting, few people have been held accountable — or even identified — for mishandling security and failing to react to signs that the troubled Cruz could erupt. Only two low-level security monitors have been fired.

Three assistant principals and a security specialist were finally transferred out of Stoneman Douglas this week as a result of information revealed by the state commission, but the district refused to say exactly what the employees did wrong.
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Re: FL: Active shooter at high school in South Florida

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Post by Flightmare » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:27 pm

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... uJ2YfLEXjA
A Florida state commission investigating the February shooting at a Parkland, Fla., high school that left 17 people dead recommended on Wednesday that teachers who undergo proper training be allowed to carry firearms at schools.

The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported that members of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission voted 13-1 to recommend the state legislature pass the proposal. The recommendation calls for teachers who would be armed to undergo a background check and proper training.
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Re: FL: Active shooter at high school in South Florida

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Post by philip964 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:34 am

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/brow ... s2TLtYg9Nk

Judge rejects Scott Peterson's arguments he was not required to protect and sovereign immunity from suit.

He also wanted a father of a dead student daughter barred from attending a deposition due to a posting he made on Scot's go fund me page.

"......GoFundMe page Peterson established for his legal defense fund, asserting that “the only thing we should help him with is which solid tree to hang a noose from.”"


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Post by TreyHouston » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:16 am

Flightmare wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:27 pm
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... uJ2YfLEXjA
A Florida state commission investigating the February shooting at a Parkland, Fla., high school that left 17 people dead recommended on Wednesday that teachers who undergo proper training be allowed to carry firearms at schools.

The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported that members of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission voted 13-1 to recommend the state legislature pass the proposal. The recommendation calls for teachers who would be armed to undergo a background check and proper training.
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Post by ELB » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:59 am

Flightmare wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:27 pm
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... uJ2YfLEXjA
A Florida state commission investigating the February shooting at a Parkland, Fla., high school that left 17 people dead recommended on Wednesday that teachers who undergo proper training be allowed to carry firearms at schools.

The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported that members of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission voted 13-1 to recommend the state legislature pass the proposal. The recommendation calls for teachers who would be armed to undergo a background check and proper training.
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Re: FL: Active shooter at high school in South Florida

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Post by Ike Aramba » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:24 pm

philip964 wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:34 am
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/brow ... s2TLtYg9Nk

Judge rejects Scott Peterson's arguments he was not required to protect and sovereign immunity from suit.

He also wanted a father of a dead student daughter barred from attending a deposition due to a posting he made on Scot's go fund me page.

"......GoFundMe page Peterson established for his legal defense fund, asserting that “the only thing we should help him with is which solid tree to hang a noose from.”"
I would go fund that!
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Re: FL: Active shooter at high school in South Florida

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Post by SQLGeek » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:32 pm

Flightmare wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:27 pm
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... uJ2YfLEXjA
A Florida state commission investigating the February shooting at a Parkland, Fla., high school that left 17 people dead recommended on Wednesday that teachers who undergo proper training be allowed to carry firearms at schools.

The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported that members of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission voted 13-1 to recommend the state legislature pass the proposal. The recommendation calls for teachers who would be armed to undergo a background check and proper training.
philip964 wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:34 am
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/brow ... s2TLtYg9Nk

Judge rejects Scott Peterson's arguments he was not required to protect and sovereign immunity from suit.

He also wanted a father of a dead student daughter barred from attending a deposition due to a posting he made on Scot's go fund me page.

"......GoFundMe page Peterson established for his legal defense fund, asserting that “the only thing we should help him with is which solid tree to hang a noose from.”"
These give me a glimmer of hope that there might be some effective, meaningful changes made to actually ensure the security of schools in the wake of this horrid event.
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Re: FL: Active shooter at high school in South Florida

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Post by Pawpaw » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:10 pm

ELB wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:59 am
As Instapundit said, "David Hogg hardest hit."
He deserves to be hit hard... and repeatedly. :evil2:
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Re: FL: Active shooter at high school in South Florida

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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:58 am

I think the Peterson case will be lost eventually. The federal judge was correct, law enforcement officers have no duty to protect any individual. That's long-standing SCOTUS case law. It's also correct. If the Court were to have held differently, it wouldn't be long before every city and county would be in bankruptcy court.

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Re: FL: Active shooter at high school in South Florida

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Post by Grumpy1993 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:02 am

If they have no duty to protect us, we have no obligation to pay their salaries and pensions.

I'm good with that!
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Re: FL: Active shooter at high school in South Florida

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Post by ELB » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:17 am

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:58 am


I think the Peterson case will be lost eventually. The federal judge was correct, law enforcement officers have no duty to protect any individual. That's long-standing SCOTUS case law. It's also correct. If the Court were to have held differently, it wouldn't be long before every city and county would be in bankruptcy court.

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Well, there is an obligation, a special duty, for LE to protect some individuals. Those in custody, for example. The judge in this case apparently decided that there is no special duty for LE to protect children attending a public school. I don't think school children fall in the same bucket as Joe Schmoe walking down the street, particularly when there are numerous laws and public funds involved requiring those children to be there.

But this holding of no constitutional duty to protect (which IIRC the SCOTUS has held at least 19 times in various circumstances) should mean that the right to self-defense, particularly with a firearm, should be constitutionally holy, superseding such eye wash as "sensitive places" and the like.
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Re: FL: Active shooter at high school in South Florida

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Post by TreyHouston » Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:45 pm

I wonder what David Hogg thinks about that? No, really!
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