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Post by Odinvalknir » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:12 am

I heard about this story this morning while listening to Michael Berry. And I thought I would pose a question here, apparently in at least two of the robberies the kids involved used a fake handgun to hold up their victims. If faced with this kind of attack what would be your reaction? Whether or not you can tell they were juveniles and whether or not you could tell the handgun they pointed at you was fake, would you draw down and stop someone if they pointed a gun at you?


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Post by Odinvalknir » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:15 am

Edit: I miss read the story, The firearm supposedly used was a semi-automatic style long gun. The cops have determined the gun to have been a fake.

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Post by Bitter Clinger » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:36 am

OP. A gang of thugs sporting prison tats surrounds you after dark and demands your property at gunpoint. What are your first thoughts?
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Post by Odinvalknir » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:48 am

Bitter Clinger wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:36 am
OP. A gang of thugs sporting prison tats surrounds you after dark and demands your property at gunpoint. What are your first thoughts?
Keep calm, comply, look for opportunity to resist and fight back. Especially since if I'm out at all, day or night I have either one or more of my kids, or wife with me. Their protection is number 1, I have insurance on my vehicle, but if I'm threatened with a firearm, real or not I will retaliate. Not every bad guy has prison tattoos, if any group of any type people surround me, I will go to fight/flight mode.

Keep calm, comply, look for space/opportunity to react.


I won't shoot someone to save my vehicle, I would however if some pulled a weapon, or if they're taking my vehicle and my children or wife are in said vehicle.

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Post by Bitter Clinger » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:05 pm

Thanks for responding. It seems as though lately these attacks are involving groups of 4 or more perpetrators. My first thought is do I possess sufficient capacity to service all of them effectively?
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Bitter Clinger wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:05 pm
Thanks for responding. It seems as though lately these attacks are involving groups of 4 or more perpetrators. My first thought is do I possess sufficient capacity to service all of them effectively?
That thought is what has me mostly carrying my full size, 17-round or compact 15-round 9mm M&P instead of my 8-round Shield.
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Bitter Clinger wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:05 pm
Thanks for responding. It seems as though lately these attacks are involving groups of 4 or more perpetrators. My first thought is do I possess sufficient capacity to service all of them effectively?
Agree. But if I had the capacity I would defend myself and I don't care if it is a juvenile or a possible fake gun. If you think about it a juvenile is more likely to shoot you because they believe they will go to juvenile court and get off free. If cops shoot kids with toy guns thinking they are real how am I supposed to know what is real?


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Post by Odinvalknir » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:01 pm

bblhd672 wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:40 pm
Bitter Clinger wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:05 pm
Thanks for responding. It seems as though lately these attacks are involving groups of 4 or more perpetrators. My first thought is do I possess sufficient capacity to service all of them effectively?
That thought is what has me mostly carrying my full size, 17-round or compact 15-round 9mm M&P instead of my 8-round Shield.
I also carry a compact M&P. its a 1st gen that was lucky enough to be made with the upgraded trigger. I bought a +3 mag extension for it, more for the extra grip length than the extra rounds, but more bullets is always good too. my m&p 9c has 15+1 capacity now.

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Post by Bitter Clinger » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:32 pm

rotor wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:23 pm
Bitter Clinger wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:05 pm
Thanks for responding. It seems as though lately these attacks are involving groups of 4 or more perpetrators. My first thought is do I possess sufficient capacity to service all of them effectively?
Agree. But if I had the capacity I would defend myself and I don't care if it is a juvenile or a possible fake gun. If you think about it a juvenile is more likely to shoot you because they believe they will go to juvenile court and get off free. If cops shoot kids with toy guns thinking they are real how am I supposed to know what is real?
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Post by surprise_i'm_armed » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:54 am

Bitterclinger: No, you don't have enough rounds in your Glock 43. Add a BUG, or carry your XDM.
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Post by oljames3 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:27 pm

Odinvalknir wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:01 pm
bblhd672 wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:40 pm
Bitter Clinger wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:05 pm
Thanks for responding. It seems as though lately these attacks are involving groups of 4 or more perpetrators. My first thought is do I possess sufficient capacity to service all of them effectively?
That thought is what has me mostly carrying my full size, 17-round or compact 15-round 9mm M&P instead of my 8-round Shield.
I also carry a compact M&P. its a 1st gen that was lucky enough to be made with the upgraded trigger. I bought a +3 mag extension for it, more for the extra grip length than the extra rounds, but more bullets is always good too. my m&p 9c has 15+1 capacity now.
My EDC basic load is 49 for my M&P M2.0 9mm 5inch, with a Ruger LCR .38 as backup. I carry the LCR simply because it was available. My wife replaced it as her EDC with a Walther PPS M2 LE.
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Post by Bitter Clinger » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:23 pm

surprise_i'm_armed wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:54 am
Bitterclinger: No, you don't have enough rounds in your Glock 43. Add a BUG, or carry your XDM.
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Post by surprise_i'm_armed » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:38 pm

You Glock fanboys have all the answers!

Isn't there a 50 round drum mag for that?

I'm sure that would not print. :-)

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Post by Oldgringo » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:08 pm

Has anybody asked Sheila Jackson Lee about her thoughts and suggestions on these instances?

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