5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

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Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

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I wish they would put Art on leave permanently.

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Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

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Post by PBR » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:00 pm

This was botched from the start and last couple of police involved shootings while serving high risk warrants. This should of never been done in broad daylight. I don't know who decided it's a good idea to start doing these during the daylight time raids / warrants but it's not. It puts police at such more disadvantage and is just plain silly.
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Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

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Post by WildBill » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:01 am

carlson1 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:51 pm
WildBill wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:32 pm
Can someone explain exactly was is a confidential informant?

It seems like a bad idea to approve a search warrant based on the testimony/information of a person
whose identity and veracity is unknown.
Bill a lot of times a CI (confidential informant) is usually someone trying to work off charges against them. They agree to turn on who they were getting drugs from so their charges are dismissed. That is. Ormall the story of a CI. Sometimes it could be someone who is just sick and tired of seeing bad and agrees to go undercover to make buys.

I had a CI that I worked with that started off to have his charges dismissed, but eventually just kept working because he really did have a change of heart and seen how the drugs destroyed his family and others.
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Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

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Post by Grumpy1993 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:03 am

It sounds like no police officer made an undercover buy and no police officer saw the alleged drugs in the house claimed in the warrant. So whatever that HPD officer "swore" on the affidavit was just hearsay. They didn't actually see drugs. They were just parroting what somebody else told them. So much for due process.

Now a married couple and their dog are dead, gunned down in their own home. And the killers will probably never go to prison.
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Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

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Post by Alf » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:52 pm

I would keep a loaded AR at home if I lived in a major city. Wheel guns aren't enough to stop home invaders these days.

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Post by C-dub » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:25 pm

Alf wrote:
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I would keep a loaded AR at home if I lived in a major city. Wheel guns aren't enough to stop home invaders these days.
I do and with a 40 round mag inserted and a couple 30 round spares.

And I'm sure a few others here have similar or more ready to go.
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Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

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Post by philip964 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:06 pm

ABC 13 reported:

“According to the court documents, police recovered four guns, about 18 grams of marijuana and about 1.5 grams of an unknown white powder.”

Is 1 gram very much?

Attorney familiar with drug operations said he would have expected to find scales and unused baggies if it was a drug operation.

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Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

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Post by carlson1 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:20 pm

philip964 wrote:
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Attorney familiar with drug operations said he would have expected to find scales and unused baggies if it was a drug operation.
I worked undercover narcotics for 10 years. If it was a “drug house” I would have expected the same plus multiple buys before a raid.

Not enough true information known at this point, but there are a lot of questions. I sure hope there is not a cover up.
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Post by Odinvalknir » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:43 pm

philip964 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:06 pm
ABC 13 reported:

“According to the court documents, police recovered four guns, about 18 grams of marijuana and about 1.5 grams of an unknown white powder.”

Is 1 gram very much?

Attorney familiar with drug operations said he would have expected to find scales and unused baggies if it was a drug operation.

Well if my teenage and early twenties mean anything, 18 grams of weed is really not a lot if you are a fairly consistent weed smoker. Don't even really have to be a heavy weed smoker, me and a couple buddies could smoke 18 grams in a matter of few days back then. Especially if we are talkin about what would be called Reggie weed and not what we'd call Hydro or the good stuff. Even if it was the better stuff 18 grams is still not drug dealer amounts of marijuana.

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Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

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Post by Pawpaw » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:16 am

philip964 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:06 pm
Is 1 gram very much?
1.5 grams = .0529 ounces
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Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

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Post by warnmar10 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:38 am

philip964 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:06 pm
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Is 1 gram very much?

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I've learned from watching the evening news that 1 gram has a street value of about $3.2 million.
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Post by Liberty » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:41 am

Odinvalknir wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:43 pm
philip964 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:06 pm
ABC 13 reported:

“According to the court documents, police recovered four guns, about 18 grams of marijuana and about 1.5 grams of an unknown white powder.”

Is 1 gram very much?

Attorney familiar with drug operations said he would have expected to find scales and unused baggies if it was a drug operation.

Well if my teenage and early twenties mean anything, 18 grams of weed is really not a lot if you are a fairly consistent weed smoker. Don't even really have to be a heavy weed smoker, me and a couple buddies could smoke 18 grams in a matter of few days back then. Especially if we are talkin about what would be called Reggie weed and not what we'd call Hydro or the good stuff. Even if it was the better stuff 18 grams is still not drug dealer amounts of marijuana.
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Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

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Post by WTR » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:06 am

warnmar10 wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:38 am
philip964 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:06 pm
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Is 1 gram very much?

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I've learned from watching the evening news that 1 gram has a street value of about $3.2 million.
1 gm of what?

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Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

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Post by DocV » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:15 am

philip964 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:06 pm
ABC 13 reported:

“According to the court documents, police recovered four guns, about 18 grams of marijuana and about 1.5 grams of an unknown white powder.”

Is 1 gram very much?
For comparsion, a "regular" apirin tablet is 300 mgs. So five 300 mg aspirin would be 1.5 grams. Those reported "abouts" are frustratingly unprecise. An elephant and a flea are both "about" 1.5 grams.
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Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

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Post by dlh » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:25 am

The police agencies I am familiar with will both weigh it at the scene with digital scales then send it to the D.P.S. lab for more accurate weighing and analysis of the substance. All of that is important for figuring out what to charge somebody with. Of course, in this case the presumed defendants are dead from gunshot wounds so they won't be charged.
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