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Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:23 am
by jason812
This quote from a man wrongfully arrested in the spa sex bust in Florida I thought fit this case as well.
“willing to sacrifice proper investigative work and our civil liberties for yet another arrest.”

Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:47 am
by philip964
EastTexasRancher wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:05 am
I'm at a point where I even wonder if the small amounts of pot and coke that were "found" were even really there to begin with?
I agree.

The wife lunging for the fallen officer's weapon, always sounded made up from the first time I read it.

Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:26 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
philip964 wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:47 am
EastTexasRancher wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:05 am
I'm at a point where I even wonder if the small amounts of pot and coke that were "found" were even really there to begin with?
I agree.

The wife lunging for the fallen officer's weapon, always sounded made up from the first time I read it.
I find that very hard to believe. The natural response for the vast majority of untrained, inexperienced people is to freeze, not reach for a battlefield pick-up.

Chas.

Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:34 pm
by philip964
https://www.click2houston.com/news/poli ... ston-mayor

Mayor launches re-election bid.

I’m already seeing the other guys campaign ads in my mind.

Since the first of the year trash collection has been a hit or miss thing. Starting to think that you should just leave the barrels at the street permanently.

He also wanted s tax hike right after Harvey. Had to pay for all the electric cars in the basement garage that flooded.

Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:10 am
by José Shalom
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:26 pm
philip964 wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:47 am
EastTexasRancher wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:05 am
I'm at a point where I even wonder if the small amounts of pot and coke that were "found" were even really there to begin with?
I agree.

The wife lunging for the fallen officer's weapon, always sounded made up from the first time I read it.
I find that very hard to believe. The natural response for the vast majority of untrained, inexperienced people is to freeze, not reach for a battlefield pick-up.

Chas.
:iagree: It's much easier to believe she acted emotionally, not tactically, and rushed over to comfort her dying doggy.

Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:00 pm
by DynamicDan
Hopefully, the whole truth and nothing but the truth will be told.

Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:35 pm
by DocV
philip964 wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:47 am
EastTexasRancher wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:05 am
I'm at a point where I even wonder if the small amounts of pot and coke that were "found" were even really there to begin with?
I agree.

The wife lunging for the fallen officer's weapon, always sounded made up from the first time I read it.
It seems more likely the wife was going to take care of her dog.

Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:31 pm
by philip964
https://www.click2houston.com/news/hpd- ... ource-says

Officer under investigation will retire on Friday.

Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:54 pm
by WTR
philip964 wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:31 pm
https://www.click2houston.com/news/hpd- ... ource-says

Officer under investigation will retire on Friday.
He may need to be retired to Huntsville.

Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:12 am
by Gator Guy
WTR wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:54 pm
philip964 wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:31 pm
https://www.click2houston.com/news/hpd- ... ource-says

Officer under investigation will retire on Friday.
He may need to be retired to Huntsville.
If he's actually convicted of killing the middle age couple he murdered, will he still get his pension?

Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:57 pm
by baseballguy2001
I'm afraid you guys are missing the point ... once he retires, any questions he's asked, he can refuse to answer via his 5th amendment right. If he's still a police officer, he must answer all the questions. This is an attempt to stay out of prison but also to keep whatever pension he can get. Goines probably can't risk this sort of strategy since he is staring at a few more surgeries.

Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:44 pm
by Bill Anderson
Business as usual for Houston.

Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:20 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
baseballguy2001 wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:57 pm
I'm afraid you guys are missing the point ... once he retires, any questions he's asked, he can refuse to answer via his 5th amendment right. If he's still a police officer, he must answer all the questions. This is an attempt to stay out of prison but also to keep whatever pension he can get. Goines probably can't risk this sort of strategy since he is staring at a few more surgeries.
Police officers enjoy Fifth Amendment privileges as do all Americans.

Chas.

Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:08 pm
by Jusme
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:20 pm
baseballguy2001 wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:57 pm
I'm afraid you guys are missing the point ... once he retires, any questions he's asked, he can refuse to answer via his 5th amendment right. If he's still a police officer, he must answer all the questions. This is an attempt to stay out of prison but also to keep whatever pension he can get. Goines probably can't risk this sort of strategy since he is staring at a few more surgeries.
Police officers enjoy Fifth Amendment privileges as do all Americans.

Chas.

Exactly, putting on a badge does no force you to give up any of your Constitutional rights.

Re: 5 Officers Shot In Houston - Pray

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:35 pm
by baseballguy2001
Mr. Cotton, Sir, don't large departments compel their employees to answer questions, especially if they have cases open, or those employees could be terminated? And if terminated, that could mean a loss of retirement benefits? I didn't mean to imply they don't enjoy a 5th amendment right, just that this is an attempt, IMHO, to escape and still get paid.