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CHL fees for veterans

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Post by srothstein » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:30 pm

I may have missed it, but has anyone seen HB 1329? I just saw it is scheduled for a hearing in the Homeland Security and Public Safety committee on 3/24. It makes all veterans exempt from paying CHL license fees, not just the ones who apply in their first year after service.
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Post by terryg » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:56 pm

Nice. I like that ...
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Post by ELB » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:35 pm

I had not seen that either. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Post by sjfcontrol » Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:45 am

So THAT's what they'er doing will all the extra income from ex-utah licensees! :smilelol5:
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Post by Griz44 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:44 pm

So THAT's what they'er doing will all the extra income from ex-utah licensees!
That's gonna start an argument for sure! :lol:

This is a good thing! I already offer those with service a very deep discount, those with current service ride free.

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Re: CHL fees for veterans

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Post by stevie_d_64 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:20 am

As a veteran, I have mixed feelings about this...

As it stands now, I only fork over $35 to renew my Texas CHL...Every 5 years...

Even though I appreciate the idea, I'm ok with the way it is now...The more we keep cutting the fee, I feel the quality and customer service will decline...

I know that is a surface thing to think about, but over the many years we have seen minor to massive delays in the processing of these licenses, I only feel we will see a reasurgence of the problems we have seen in years past...

What did we plateau at for a long time??? about 200,000 CHL'ers...I stand to be corrected, but we are at about 500,000 licensees in this state...

I feel the 300,000+ new folks were a result of other factors in getting them onboard, and the delays were a result of the surge of applications over the last couple of years...

But I am just kinda shooting from the hip here on this...Again, I am ok with the way it is now, and appreciate the offer...

I believe we have a few other things to consentrate on before something like this...

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Post by hirundo82 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:32 am

stevie_d_64 wrote:As a veteran, I have mixed feelings about this...

As it stands now, I only fork over $35 to renew my Texas CHL...Every 5 years...

Even though I appreciate the idea, I'm ok with the way it is now...The more we keep cutting the fee, I feel the quality and customer service will decline...
Not a veteran, but I'd rather the state worked on cutting CHL fees for everyone than exempting larger classes of people from paying any fee at all. As far as I know $140 is the highest permit fee in the nation, and along with $50-100 for a required class it can get prohibitively expensive for some people.
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Post by blue » Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:02 am

Excellent! Veterans rejoice! (As it should be.)
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Make it $35, OR LESS, for EVERYONE, WITH NO EXCEPTIONS. (Intial or renew.)
-Then watch CHLers go past 1 million in a hurry.-
Campus/parking would be a whole lot easier with 2X+ as many CHLers on record.

--The whole thing of $140 OR $0 --DEPENDING on WHO your are --is WRONG.--

Kinda solves most ofthe utah thing also. Plus Texas CHL classes would be packed!


Convicts, Secret Clearance, Military, etc., pay NOTHING for prints, background checks.
Plastic I.D. cards really are cheap to make.
A fast typest, or scanner, or online applications, can input many peoples data very fast and low cost.
SO... $140 really is a Insult and disgraceful for Texas to even ask at all.

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????--Add a amendment to HB1329 - Fees $35 for all new and renews.????

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Post by tacticool » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:28 pm

hirundo82 wrote:I'd rather the state worked on cutting CHL fees for everyone than exempting larger classes of people from paying any fee at all.
:iagree:

Al Gore can already get a Texas CHL for half the price millions of Texas gun owners have to pay.
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Post by MasterOfNone » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:30 pm

tacticool wrote:
hirundo82 wrote:I'd rather the state worked on cutting CHL fees for everyone than exempting larger classes of people from paying any fee at all.
:iagree:

Al Gore can already get a Texas CHL for half the price millions of Texas gun owners have to pay.
But he wouldn't because of the carbon and the heat.
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Post by Liberty » Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:48 am

I sorta resent the implications that we vets need the extra help. There are those out there who believe that Veterans aren't as smart or capable as draft dodgers. While those who ETS might need some help getting a career going, Being a vet in itself isn't a lifelong liability.
Wouldn't we better off if we stopped making special classes of people.
Veterans, Indians black people red people. Feminine people, dumb people, smart people, union people, Crippled people. Inner city people, rural people, all looking for a special break for from the gooberment.

The 1 year special break is ok, I understand that, but a lifetime break seems a little overboard.
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Post by jmra » Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:30 am

Liberty wrote:I sorta resent the implications that we vets need the extra help. There are those out there who believe that Veterans aren't as smart or capable as draft dodgers. While those who ETS might need some help getting a career going, Being a vet in itself isn't a lifelong liability.
Wouldn't we better off if we stopped making special classes of people.
Veterans, Indians black people red people. Feminine people, dumb people, smart people, union people, Crippled people. Inner city people, rural people, all looking for a special break for from the gooberment.

The 1 year special break is ok, I understand that, but a lifetime break seems a little overboard.
The reduced fees for Vets are a benefit for services rendered. Well earned IMHO. I have yet to see where anyone has suggested that Vets "need" it.

I am also a Vet. I have never considered myself as being part of a special class of people, nor do I ever feel that I have been treated that way.

I don't see how anyone could equate Vet benefits with food stamps, Medicaid, or Welfare.
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Post by Jumping Frog » Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:48 am

stevie_d_64 wrote:..The more we keep cutting the fee, I feel the quality and customer service will decline...

I know that is a surface thing to think about, but over the many years we have seen minor to massive delays in the processing of these licenses, I only feel we will see a resurgence of the problems we have seen in years past...
In my opinion, the customer service issues, delays, and problems are a result of having it all centralized in a government bureaucracy in Austin.

If you had County Sheriff's issue the license, subject to meeting the standards for background checks, and let the sheriff keep the fees, you would have better service as well as a local accountability to the voters.

Face it, less bureaucratized and more local government services are usually a better approach.

For example. my Ohio license was issued by my Ohio county sheriff in one business day.
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Post by TxDrifter » Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:55 pm

jmra wrote:
Liberty wrote:I sorta resent the implications that we vets need the extra help. There are those out there who believe that Veterans aren't as smart or capable as draft dodgers. While those who ETS might need some help getting a career going, Being a vet in itself isn't a lifelong liability.
Wouldn't we better off if we stopped making special classes of people.
Veterans, Indians black people red people. Feminine people, dumb people, smart people, union people, Crippled people. Inner city people, rural people, all looking for a special break for from the gooberment.

The 1 year special break is ok, I understand that, but a lifetime break seems a little overboard.
The reduced fees for Vets are a benefit for services rendered. Well earned IMHO. I have yet to see where anyone has suggested that Vets "need" it.

I am also a Vet. I have never considered myself as being part of a special class of people, nor do I ever feel that I have been treated that way.

I don't see how anyone could equate Vet benefits with food stamps, Medicaid, or Welfare.
:iagree: I see it more as a "Thank You" to those of us that served rather than a hand out.
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