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Win for campus carry!

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Post by Monker10 » Mon May 09, 2011 6:45 pm

I don't know if anyone one else has posted this yet. If so please link it. This bill may finally pass!
http://www.texastribune.org/texas-dept- ... pus-carry/


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Re: Win for campus carry!

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Post by Monker10 » Mon May 09, 2011 6:46 pm

The way the article reads is hilarious if you have been following this drama! :lol:

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Post by Texas Size 11 » Mon May 09, 2011 6:48 pm

Liking Wentworth more and more... :cheers2:
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Post by texasmusic » Mon May 09, 2011 7:36 pm

Monker10 wrote:The way the article reads is hilarious if you have been following this drama! :lol:
Wish I could have Zaffirinis face!

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Post by warhorse10_9 » Mon May 09, 2011 9:15 pm

You could see Davis in the background, she was :mad5


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Post by Jasonw560 » Mon May 09, 2011 9:23 pm

Wentworth's amendment then prevailed with a 21-10 vote
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I can't wait to see the voting record. Why didn't #21 show their face when SB 354 was being considered as a stand-alone bill? :mad5

Still, a win is a win. I'll take it.
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Re: Win for campus carry!

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Post by RPB » Mon May 09, 2011 10:11 pm

I think 354 as a stand alone bill was more restrictive than what we got with full orchestration . Zaffrini and Ogden played their parts so well we have a better sounding bill now. That's my understanding.

"rlol" :woohoo

If Davis hadn't interrupted Lucio, they might have gotten zaffrini's bill off there, leaving Wentworths ... and Zaffrini would have to go through it all again looking for a place to stick it. ... SB 5 I mean.
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Re: Win for campus carry!

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Post by CJATE » Mon May 09, 2011 10:14 pm

How ever this shakes out, my wife should have card in hand come spring semester. Might have it summer II.

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Post by Hoi Polloi » Mon May 09, 2011 10:18 pm

RPB wrote:I think 354 as a stand alone bill was more restrictive than what we got with full orchestration . Zaffrini and Ogden played their parts so well we have a better sounding bill now. That's my understanding.

"rlol" :woohoo
My husband pointed out to me that 354 on its own was likely to die even if it passed the Senate. Once it got to the House, it was likely to die in Calendars where the House version would die with it. By putting it on this bill where the companion is already out of the House's calendars committee, it will actually make it to the House floor now to get a vote.
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Re: Win for campus carry!

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Post by TrueFlog » Mon May 09, 2011 10:57 pm

Hoi Polloi wrote:
RPB wrote:I think 354 as a stand alone bill was more restrictive than what we got with full orchestration . Zaffrini and Ogden played their parts so well we have a better sounding bill now. That's my understanding.

"rlol" :woohoo
My husband pointed out to me that 354 on its own was likely to die even if it passed the Senate. Once it got to the House, it was likely to die in Calendars where the House version would die with it. By putting it on this bill where the companion is already out of the House's calendars committee, it will actually make it to the House floor now to get a vote.
Yup, despite all the crazy drama, we're actually in a better position now than we were last session when the Senate passed it through "normal means". This is a classic case of things having to get worse before they get better, darkest before the dawn, and all that rot.


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Re: Win for campus carry!

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Post by Coogan » Mon May 09, 2011 11:14 pm

Hoi Polloi wrote:
RPB wrote:I think 354 as a stand alone bill was more restrictive than what we got with full orchestration . Zaffrini and Ogden played their parts so well we have a better sounding bill now. That's my understanding.

"rlol" :woohoo
My husband pointed out to me that 354 on its own was likely to die even if it passed the Senate. Once it got to the House, it was likely to die in Calendars where the House version would die with it. By putting it on this bill where the companion is already out of the House's calendars committee, it will actually make it to the House floor now to get a vote.
I'm not convinced the Calendars Committee would have killed SB 354. I think they were holding back on HB 750 because they knew, even if passed, it would die in the Senate. Hopefully we will find out the real story after the legislative session is over.


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Post by Mike from Texas » Tue May 10, 2011 11:08 am

So now it just has to pass a vote on the floor of the House?

I wonder hy it was amended to exempt private universities? Wouldn't have made more sense to cover all universities and then let 30.06 take over for the Universities that didn't want it?
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Re: Win for campus carry!

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Post by hirundo82 » Tue May 10, 2011 11:44 am

Jasonw560 wrote:
Wentworth's amendment then prevailed with a 21-10 vote
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I can't wait to see the voting record. Why didn't #21 show their face when SB 354 was being considered as a stand-alone bill? :mad5

Still, a win is a win. I'll take it.
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Re: Win for campus carry!

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Post by Russell » Tue May 10, 2011 12:45 pm

Mike from Texas wrote:So now it just has to pass a vote on the floor of the House?

I wonder hy it was amended to exempt private universities? Wouldn't have made more sense to cover all universities and then let 30.06 take over for the Universities that didn't want it?


I hadn't heard anything about it being amended to exempt private universities. Can anyone verify this? What is the actual bill # it was amended to so that I can read the whole amendment?
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Re: Win for campus carry!

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Post by Russell » Tue May 10, 2011 12:53 pm

Nevermind I found the amendment. Something that is kind of concerning from it:

(e)This section does not permit a license holder to carry a concealed handgun
on or about the premises of a hospital maintained or operated by an institution of
higher education. In this subsection, "hospital" has the meaning assigned by Section
241.003, Health and Safety Code.

(f)This section does not permit a license holder to carry a concealed handgun on
the premises of a preschool, elementary school, or secondary school that is located on
the campus of an institution of higher education if the institution gives effective notice
under Section 30.06, Penal Code.



Why the section about hospitals? Is this giving us the ability to carry on campus, but not into a teaching hospital (for some odd reason?)
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