Are HB 508 and SB 1907 the Main Sausage Left

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Are HB 508 and SB 1907 the Main Sausage Left

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Post by 2firfun50 » Thu May 23, 2013 9:33 am

Are these the only significant bills still in the grinder?

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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Thu May 23, 2013 9:44 am

2firfun50 wrote:Are these the only significant bills still in the grinder?
Yes and I don't anticipate any problems either. They have passed both bodies with amendments so each must go before their respective bodies to either concur or not. If not, then a conference committee can be convened. I expect the Senate to concur on SB1907, but I don't know about the House on HB508. The Carona amendment may be stripped off, but if so, I don't know if the Senate will approve the House change.

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Post by 2firfun50 » Thu May 23, 2013 9:55 am

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2firfun50 wrote:Are these the only significant bills still in the grinder?
Yes and I don't anticipate any problems either. They have passed both bodies with amendments so each must go before their respective bodies to either concur or not. If not, then a conference committee can be convened. I expect the Senate to concur on SB1907, but I don't know about the House on HB508. The Carona amendment may be stripped off, but if so, I don't know if the Senate will approve the House change.

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Thanks Charles. I'm calling my Representative to support acceptance of HB508 as amended. I do find the amendment offensive to CHL holders, however the good in the bill out weights my objection to the amendment. I see the amendment as neutral to non elected CHL holders.


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Post by Smily » Thu May 23, 2013 2:38 pm

Some great HB508 debate going on now!

http://www.texastribune.org/session/83R/live/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


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Post by TrueFlog » Thu May 23, 2013 2:43 pm

Smily wrote:Some great HB508 debate going on now!

http://www.texastribune.org/session/83R/live/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I must have just missed it... They're on to various recognitions now.

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Post by puma guy » Thu May 23, 2013 2:45 pm

Smily wrote:Some great HB508 debate going on now!

http://www.texastribune.org/session/83R/live/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Must have been quick all I say was recognition speeches. What has happened with HB 508? I didn't even see it on the calendar today.
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Post by G26ster » Thu May 23, 2013 2:50 pm

"The point of order has been withdrawn, and the Bill is postponed." Whatever that means at this time :headscratch


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Post by 2firfun50 » Thu May 23, 2013 3:19 pm

G26ster wrote:"The point of order has been withdrawn, and the Bill is postponed." Whatever that means at this time :headscratch
I sure hope it doesn't mean postponed to 2015 :mad5 :mad5 :mad5 :mad5 Maybe only until later today so thay can properly :boxing :boxing


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Post by HK_USP_45 » Thu May 23, 2013 3:49 pm

What I see from the Texas Legislature Online is both these bills passed both the House and Senate and are in roue to the Governor. I am not reading this correctly?


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Post by 2firfun50 » Thu May 23, 2013 3:55 pm

HK_USP_45 wrote:What I see from the Texas Legislature Online is both these bills passed both the House and Senate and are in roue to the Governor. I am not reading this correctly?
Nope, both have been amended and have to be approved by the originating body or sent to a conference committee. Charles is confident with SB1907, not so much with HB508. Might want to get on the phone.

I really don't like the "postponed" for HB508. Might just die right there.


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Post by jerry_r60 » Thu May 23, 2013 4:10 pm

HK_USP_45 wrote:What I see from the Texas Legislature Online is both these bills passed both the House and Senate and are in roue to the Governor. I am not reading this correctly?
The "Bill Stages" tab on the Legistlature website, once you've pulled up a bill, doesn't have every step. It has the big pieces but it doesn't show anything for conference committiees for bill reconciliation.

Flow Charts on pages 39 and 40 of this document: http://www.tlc.state.tx.us/pubslegref/gtli.pdf#page=7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; have the process mapped out (same kind of process as the fed level). You can then follow where it is with the bill "Actions" tab. The Bill Stages tab is a much summarized flow and makes some bills look like they have gone to the Govornor when they are not quite there yet.


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Post by jerry_r60 » Thu May 23, 2013 4:17 pm

For HB508 it looks like the House didn't concur with the Senate amendment and they are putting together a conference committee

H House appoints conferees 05/23/2013
H House requests conference committee 05/23/2013
H House refuses to concur in Senate amendments 05/23/2013
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Post by 2firfun50 » Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm

I wonder if the TLO will post the senate members. Since Carona started this mess.


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Post by Rrash » Fri May 24, 2013 12:58 am

Here is a summary of what went on with HB 508. I've already written to each representative and my representative to get 508 done.
http://www.texastribune.org/2013/05/23/ ... /comments/

While personally, I'm disgusted with Sen. Carona's amendment, passing it as is, does not take away/restrict rights, does not cost anything, gives added protection to some, and gives hope that these freedoms will be extended in the future to all.

I don't care whether the amendment stands or not. However, the greater loss is for this bill to die. Senator Carona & company will have to explain to their constituents why they feel they deserve rights not granted to CHL's either way at this point.

I also think passing this bill with or without fuels more talk about bills along the lines of HB 3218 in 2015.

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Post by jmra » Fri May 24, 2013 3:44 am

Rrash wrote:Here is a summary of what went on with HB 508. I've already written to each representative and my representative to get 508 done.
http://www.texastribune.org/2013/05/23/ ... /comments/

While personally, I'm disgusted with Sen. Carona's amendment, passing it as is, does not take away/restrict rights, does not cost anything, gives added protection to some, and gives hope that these freedoms will be extended in the future to all.

I don't care whether the amendment stands or not. However, the greater loss is for this bill to die. Senator Carona & company will have to explain to their constituents why they feel they deserve rights not granted to CHL's either way at this point.

I also think passing this bill with or without fuels more talk about bills along the lines of HB 3218 in 2015.
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