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Re: NRA Carry Guard - Level 1 Training

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:12 pm
by twomillenium
Thanks guys, I was interested in the course itself ---- for myself. I like to know what all is involved before I spend that kind of money and time. Like I said, Scotts endorsement by the experience he had will go a long way (even tho we have never met, I have read his posts and feel like I do know him enough to respect his endorsement) I am always wanting to learn more, from others. Especially those with unique experience. I am not interested in instructing this type of course, but all good training helps instructors become better instructors.

Re: NRA Carry Guard - Level 1 Training

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:28 pm
by Scott B.
...but all good training helps instructors become better instructors.
Well said.

Re: NRA Carry Guard - Level 1 Training

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:46 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Scott B. wrote:
...but all good training helps instructors become better instructors.
Well said.
:iagree: Gregg Garrett, owner of http://www.Comp-Tac.com, is a fantastic instructor and I remember something he said many years ago. "The best instructors are those who are lifetime students." As instructors, if we stop taking courses/classes, the best we can do is teach what we know at the point we stopped being students. If that was twenty years ago, then we are two decades behind. Yes, the basics of shooting don't change, but teaching techniques, new equipment, etc. most assured do change. I'll start a new thread, but I just took a class taught by a recently retired HPD SWAT instructor and sniper instructor. It was an excellent course!

Chas.

Re: NRA Carry Guard - Level 1 Training

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:07 pm
by diverman26
What would you suggest (if any) as a prerequisite for this course? It doesn’t sound quite like it is designed for someone who isn’t already fairly proficient with a handgun.

Re: NRA Carry Guard - Level 1 Training

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:34 pm
by Scott B.
diverman26 wrote:What would you suggest (if any) as a prerequisite for this course? It doesn’t sound quite like it is designed for someone who isn’t already fairly proficient with a handgun.
Don't worry about that. The instructors will pace it to the student and if you need some personal one-on-one attention, you'll get it. They won't let you get in over your head.

It's not a bad idea at all to take some classes, if you can, that are already offered in your area. Just about every range has some kind of program going on.

Re: NRA Carry Guard - Level 1 Training

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:45 pm
by Scott B.
I'll add another note as it sounds like you might be at the beginning of a journey to get more training. It's a piece of advice than an instructor told me once and I've held onto it.

Beware the cult of personality.

There's no one instructor that knows it all or the best way to do everything. There are a couple of things from the Carry Guard class that I won't add to my 'bag of tricks' and a couple that I've immediately adopted. The ones I'm keeping were more than worth the cost of the course and time invested.

Also, if you ever feel like a training activity is unsafe. Don't hesitate to turn around and walk away. Don't stick it out because of peer pressure.

FWIW, Carry Guard was extremely safe. They're on their toes when it comes to student safety.

Re: NRA Carry Guard - Level 1 Training

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:03 pm
by Scott B.
Had a little Carry Guard tchotchke show up from NRA today, a challenge coin.

They weren't in vogue when I was in and so I've only got a handful. By far my favorite is from the '41 protective detail that an agent gave me.

Re: NRA Carry Guard - Level 1 Training

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:18 pm
by Scott B.
I had a call about CG the other day which got me to looking at the current training opportunities.

It looks like they've tweaked the structure. Now they're offering:

https://www.nracarryguard.com

NRA CARRY GUARD BASIC TRAINING
2-Day course, typically indoors with a combination of classroom and live-fire training.


NRA CARRY GUARD INTERMEDIATE TRAINING
3-Day course, typically outdoors with classroom and extensive live-fire training and scenario-based training.


NRA CARRY GUARD SCENARIO TRAINING
1-Day course, either indoors or out, some classroom training and multiple drills and force-on-force scenarios.

There's a June (1 spot left) and an August (3 spots left) class here in Texas for the scenario training.

Re: NRA Carry Guard - Level 1 Training

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:09 pm
by AndyC
What exactly is the purpose of this course?

Edit: Let me clarify my question: How does this fit in with current NRA courses such as Defensive Pistol?

Re: NRA Carry Guard - Level 1 Training

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:25 pm
by Scott B.
When I did our version of it, which wasn't as involved, we were all wanded to make sure nobody was taking anything into the training area.
This 1-day course, either indoors or out, includes classroom training and multiple life-like scenarios.

Designed for those who have a CCW permit or live in a state with constitutional carry, this course will test your fundamentals (basics), your ability to execute those fundamentals under stress, and your ability to make the decision to shoot or not to shoot in a dynamic, life-like, real-world environment.

All exercises will be conducted with simulated or UTM guns so there is no need to bring your own firearm or ammunition.
Includes:

Legal Rights and Responsibilities
Mindset / Situational Awareness
Weapons / Tools / Equipment
Firearms Safety & Practical Application
Weapons Handling / Awareness (specific to UTM)
Ready Positions
Drawing from Holster and Reholstering
Force on Force training

Prerequisites
Have a CCW permit or live in a state with constitutional carry.

Equipment Requirements
Layered clothing options to protect you against marking rounds fired from UTM man-marking rounds.
Recommendation: have at least a medium weight jacket that can be shot with wax paint rounds
Eye protection (clear with shatterproof lenses)
Hand-held light
Note pad and pen
Snacks, water
Personal medications if any (please notify instructor of any medical conditions)
The following will be provided to you: helmet/face mask, gloves, and neck protector