Call-To-Action: Hearings on Numerous House Bills

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Post by baldeagle » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:05 pm

"It's not about the 2nd Amendment. It's about feeling safe at school." :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Post by baldeagle » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:39 pm

This guy just testified. Simulated School Shooting Experiment — Do Armed Teachers or Guards Help in a School Shooting Scenario?.
This experiment was a preliminary test, providing a proving ground for the methodology and scenarios selected for testing before being implemented in a large scale test at a later date.

Based on the limited data collected from this experiment it appears that an armed teacher would save lives in an active shooter scenario. The caveat: the teacher’s effectiveness depends on their level of training. Maximum effectiveness of an armed teacher of any skill level is achieved with advanced warning of the approaching shooter and implementation of a classroom “lockdown.”
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baldeagle wrote:"It's not about the 2nd Amendment. It's about feeling safe at school." :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
To FEEL safer, I recommend wearing bubble wrap, to BE safer, wear a .45
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Post by baldeagle » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:53 pm

"I do not believe that my right to personal safety should be infringed upon by someone's right to carry." :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

The ignorance in this country is beyond profound. Your supposed right to personal safety doesn't stop a criminal from shooting you, bozo.
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baldeagle wrote:"I do not believe that my right to personal safety should be infringed upon by someone's right to carry." :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

The ignorance in this country is beyond profound. Your supposed right to personal safety doesn't stop a criminal from shooting you, bozo.
I was just about to post roughly the same thing...

She even has a California Accent

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Post by J.R.@A&M » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:57 pm

Allright! I didn't know that as a U.S. citizen I have a right to personal safety in public places. That solves everything.
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Post by dicion » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:59 pm

J.R.@A&M wrote:Allright! I didn't know that as a U.S. citizen I have a right to personal safety in public places. That solves everything.
Clearly, all you need to do to stop a criminal is call them out on infringing your right to personal safety!


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Post by RPB » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:00 pm

#TxLege Hearings on Gun Bills HB1009 (school marshal) http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/83 ... 01009I.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; &

HB 1896 Relating to firearm training and the authority of certain employees of a school district http://legiscan.com/TX/drafts/HB1896/2013 hearings are next #Gunrights following short recess LIVE FEED
Now starting:
http://www.house.state.tx.us/video-audio/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by The_Busy_Mom » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:07 pm

I have watched everything (except for the 3-4 minutes that i got bumped when RealPlayer hiccuped). Here are my concerns -

Why is it that every young person, less maybe 1 or 2, constantly use the term "I think". I know the answer to this. We have raised, now several, generations of young people who believe what they think is more important than what the written law indicates. Long gone are the times of "you are meant to be seen, not heard." I was raised to be less hear, more seen, unless what was coming out of my mouth was well thought out and important. These generations will eventually take over our government positions, and I truly hope this doesn't happen in my lifetime, lest there be a tremendous civil struggle. I know I'm preaching to the choir......

Every woman who testified, with the exception of Alice Trip and a vet-tech from A&M, were opposed to these bills. Our leaders (NRA, political party leadership, etc.) have got to figure out why women are not being reached and served. This isn't pandering to the woman vote. It is understanding where your message is falling short. I feel very called to understand this failing, and really do something about it. How I do that, I really have no idea. But what I know is that a bunch of PTA moms got together many years ago, and got a whole bunch of stuff changed at the state level and at the national level. And if these busy bodies (yes, I was one of them) can pull themselves together for school lunch, why can't we get ourselves together to support self defense? I understand that there are some great women-only shooting groups out there (Diva WOW, Girl & A Gun, ect.). But these groups are serving people who already shoot, whether newbie or seasoned. PTA moms aren't teachers or administrators, yet they changed educational policy tremendously. I am talking about those women who are not involved with guns, who think that the answer to rampant assault and rape is to find the nearest call-box after the assault has occurred. Who is reaching out to them? I am really doing some soul searching. I know a lot of our like-minded people have become apathetic when it comes to listening to the testimony of the "other side", and why listen to our side when it just reinforces the way we already believe - but it is in those times that we are renewed to a cause, and understand where our message is failing. I look at these 5 hours of testimony in a new light, seeing again that there has to be some outreach where our message is failing.

I know I am arm-chair quarterbacking. Maybe this is the call to quarterback from meaningful position, not my living room.

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Post by RHenriksen » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:47 pm

I feel the same way. Another way to look at it is, those women who *are* pro-2A are not being as politically active. The ones who are anti-, are making the time to come and testify. While it never hurts to put thought & activism towards reaching out to anti-gun females, it wouldn't hurt to also roust up existing pro-2A females to become higher profile in meaningful ways.
The_Busy_Mom wrote:I am talking about those women who are not involved with guns, who think that the answer to rampant assault and rape is to find the nearest call-box after the assault has occurred. Who is reaching out to them? I am really doing some soul searching. I know a lot of our like-minded people have become apathetic when it comes to listening to the testimony of the "other side", and why listen to our side when it just reinforces the way we already believe - but it is in those times that we are renewed to a cause, and understand where our message is failing. I look at these 5 hours of testimony in a new light, seeing again that there has to be some outreach where our message is failing.

I know I am arm-chair quarterbacking. Maybe this is the call to quarterback from meaningful position, not my living room.

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Post by RPB » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:26 pm

Gun Bills HB1009
Teacher testifies she'd rather wait 20 minutes for Police to arrive while massacre occurs than have armed School Marshal on campus :banghead:
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#TxLege Hearings on School Gun Bills 1009 & 1896 now starting-LIVE FEED http://www.house.state.tx.us/video-audio/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; #Gunrights #TGDN #PJNET #TGDNTexas #Tcot
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Post by The_Busy_Mom » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:47 pm

RPB wrote:Gun Bills HB1009
Teacher testifies she'd rather wait 20 minutes for Police to arrive while massacre occurs than have armed School Marshal on campus :banghead:
Kenneth Sheets @RepKenSheets retweeted you
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#TxLege Hearings on School Gun Bills 1009 & 1896 now starting-LIVE FEED http://www.house.state.tx.us/video-audio/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; #Gunrights #TGDN #PJNET #TGDNTexas #Tcot
:tiphat:
Her position was absolutely ludicrous. It's like she dug in and didn't want to even open her mind for a different position. I think someone from CPS needs to visit her family if she would rather her children be put in harm's way than the potential for someone to save those children. That is potential child endangerment. :rules: :nono:

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Post by RPB » Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:09 pm

6:12 pm
Testimony beginning on HB700 #OpenCarry
http://www.house.state.tx.us/video-audio/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This hearing today, imho, has been both the friendliest and the most entertaining of all I've ever seen, even if I did miss the skirt, I mean the Kilt blowing up and accidentally exposing .... a gun. :biggrinjester:
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Post by RPB » Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:45 pm

Storify: Campus Carry Bills Debated in House

by Reeve Hamilton
March 14, 2013
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Open carry testimony still going
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Sheesh out of all of it >>>> MSM>>>
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#UT sniper victim testifies against 'campus carry' legislation:
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Post by RPB » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:19 pm

Alice Tripp is up again for a sentence or two ... HB1077
HB1077 - Extends "employer parking lot" bill to college campuses - applies to students and employees...

and it's over

7:22 pm adjourned
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