Call-To-Action: On HB508 is REINSTATED!

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Call-To-Action: On HB508 is REINSTATED!

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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:03 am

The call-to-action on HB508 is withdrawn, subject to being reissued later.
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Post by Jumping Frog » Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:14 pm

Wow, and I already called 3/4 of the people in the Committee and my rep this morning.

Alright, just gives me the chance to call them again at a future time. :thumbs2:
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Post by howdy » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:40 pm

I looked it up...this is the penalty for posting 30.06 on government property.
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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:44 pm

The as-filed version is great, but I can't say more at this time.

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Post by styxx » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:47 am

Charles, Let us know when the time is again right to flash call / e-mail, and thank you so very much for keeping us posted on whatever you are free to let us know.
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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:23 am

The hearing was yesterday and the committee substitute for HB508 is good -- now. I had some very strong reservations with the first version of CSHB508, but the bill was rewritten.

Instead of being a Class C Misdemeanor, the penalty is now a civil fine for the governmental agency or entity and the fines are huge. The minimum fine for a first violation is $1,000 per day and a maximum of $1,500 per day. All subsequent violations are $10,000 to $10,500 per day. The AG must file suit to enforce the law, either on his own or in response to a request by any Texas resident or person with a CHL. There is a 15 day cure period, but only for 1st violations.

These are huge penalties and signs will come down.

Please contact all of the committee members and your Representative and voice your strong support for CSHB508. Governmental officials and employees should not be allowed to continue intimidating law-abiding CHLs to thwart legislative policy and the law.

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Post by styxx » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:47 am

Does anyone have a readylist of the names and phone numbers of the committee members ? :patriot:
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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:49 am

House Criminal Jurisprudence Committee:

Rep. Abel Herrero - Chair (512) 463-0462
Rep. Stefani Carter - Vice-Chair (512) 463-0454
Rep. Lon Burnam (F Rated) (512) 463-0740
Rep. Terry Canales (512) 463-0426
Rep. Bryan Hughes (512) 463-0271
Rep. Jeff Leach (512) 463-0544
Rep. Joe Moody (512) 463-0728
Rep. Matt Schaefer (512) 463-0584
Rep. Steve Toth (512) 463-0797
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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:50 am

BTW, when Rep. Lon Burnam tells you TSRA doesn't support the Bill, consider the source and know it's not true. Alice signed in "on" the Bill rather than "supporting" or "opposing" for technical reasons. The Bill is very good and she's working it today.

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Post by bayouhazard » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:55 pm

Each CHL holder denied entry should get the full amount of the fine as liquidated damages for having their civil rights violated under color of law. :evil2:
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Post by styxx » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:58 pm

I will be tying up my phone line for a while, there are some legislators that I need to call . . . Helping to keep us informed helps clear the air of a lot of sometimes unintentional but far to often very intentional misinformation. Thanks ! :patriot:
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Post by tornado » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:10 pm

Would this prohibition apply to public schools? They're off limits by 46.03 & 46.035, not 30.06.

I guess so many public schools use the 30.06 sign because there's no standard sign for them other than gunbusters.


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Post by TrueFlog » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:44 pm

tornado wrote:Would this prohibition apply to public schools? They're off limits by 46.03 & 46.035, not 30.06.

I guess so many public schools use the 30.06 sign because there's no standard sign for them other than gunbusters.
If the signs are posted in the parking lot (as is the case n Plano), that would be an offense worthy of a fine because the parking lots are not off-limits under 46.03 & 46.035. I'm not sure of the impact if the signs are on the building itself since the build truly is off-limits.

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Re: Call-To-Action: On HB508 is REINSTATED!

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Post by styxx » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:50 pm

I have called each of the committee members offices and had pleasent conversations with all but three (I had to leave a message). I even had a pleasent conversation with the young lady at Lon Burnam's office.
I am concerned that several of the folks at the Representatives offices told me that they have had no contact at all reguarding HB508 which is up for hearing today. :patriot:
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Post by Wes » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:31 pm

Just 30.06, here is the section from the bill stating such. Called them all!
(b) A person commits an offense if the person is a public
employee who provides notice under Section 30.06 to a license
holder carrying a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H,
Chapter 411, Government Code, that entering or remaining on a
premises or other place owned or leased by a governmental entity is
prohibited and:
(1) the license holder is not prohibited from carrying
a handgun on the premises or other place by Section 46.03 or Section
46.035; and
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