Knife Bills (HB 905 & HB 3884) in Jeopardy

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Re: Knife Bills (HB 905 & HB 3884) in Jeopardy

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Post by joe817 » Sat May 23, 2015 3:27 pm

It's scheduled for floor debate today in the Senate.

HB 3884(Dutton) on the Senate Regular Order of Business, 2nd reading, for today, 05/23/15:

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 150523.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Note: It's a LONG list, but it's down near the bottom, about 1 inch up.
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Re: Knife Bills (HB 905 & HB 3884) in Jeopardy

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Post by Bladed » Sat May 23, 2015 4:24 pm

joe817 wrote:It's scheduled for floor debate today in the Senate.

HB 3884(Dutton) on the Senate Regular Order of Business, 2nd reading, for today, 05/23/15:

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 150523.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Note: It's a LONG list, but it's down near the bottom, about 1 inch up.
The Senate doesn't follow the regular order of business. Most likely, this bill will be heard on the Local & Uncontested Calendar.


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Re: Knife Bills (HB 905 & HB 3884) in Jeopardy

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Post by thechl » Tue May 26, 2015 8:07 pm

HB 905 just passed the Senate w/o amendment. On to the governor.

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Post by joe817 » Tue May 26, 2015 8:29 pm

Fantastic! Thanks for the heads up! Good news! :clapping:
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Post by thechl » Tue May 26, 2015 8:41 pm

I agree, a bit of good news on an otherwise depressing evening.

Back in Sep or Oct, when I suggested Straus be defeated in the general election by a Democrat (another Republican has no chance in that San Antonio district), TAM warned me not to trust a Democrat, ever! I guess TAM should have shared a similar warning with Dan Patrick...about RINO's.


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Re: Knife Bills (HB 905 & HB 3884) in Jeopardy

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Post by Bladed » Wed May 27, 2015 12:43 am

thechl wrote:HB 905 just passed the Senate w/o amendment. On to the governor.
This is definitely good news.

Unfortunately, HB 3884 (decriminalization of "illegal" knives) was killed after Senator Whitmire double-crossed us. He agreed to sponsor HB 3884 and hear it in his committee, in order to get one of his own bills out of the author's (Rep. Harold Dutton) committee.

Then, after passing the bill out of committee (on unanimous vote) and recommending it for the Local and Uncontested Calendar, he pulled it down.


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Post by K.Mooneyham » Wed May 27, 2015 1:20 am

So, does HB905 give the state pre-emption on all knife laws, the way it has on firearms laws? If so, San Antonio is going to be so angry. :mrgreen: :lol:


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Post by Bladed » Wed May 27, 2015 1:41 am

K.Mooneyham wrote:So, does HB905 give the state pre-emption on all knife laws, the way it has on firearms laws? If so, San Antonio is going to be so angry. :mrgreen: :lol:
Yes, it does, and yes they are. :cheers2:


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Post by GEM-Texas » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:15 pm

Reading the bill, it also mentions firearms and ammo. It would seem to me then that the San Antonio local ordinance prohibiting loaded long arms in your vehicle is truly void. It was clearly against state law but SAPD would say that they would use the local ordinance pretty recently.

This would seem to truly short circuit this.

The knife provision in SA was ridiculous. You see such knives all over the place and sold everywhere.

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Post by ELB » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:48 pm

Bladed wrote:
thechl wrote:HB 905 just passed the Senate w/o amendment. On to the governor.
This is definitely good news.

Unfortunately, HB 3884 (decriminalization of "illegal" knives) was killed after Senator Whitmire double-crossed us. He agreed to sponsor HB 3884 and hear it in his committee, in order to get one of his own bills out of the author's (Rep. Harold Dutton) committee.

Then, after passing the bill out of committee (on unanimous vote) and recommending it for the Local and Uncontested Calendar, he pulled it down.
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Post by Bladed » Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:44 pm

GEM-Texas wrote:Reading the bill, it also mentions firearms and ammo. It would seem to me then that the San Antonio local ordinance prohibiting loaded long arms in your vehicle is truly void. It was clearly against state law but SAPD would say that they would use the local ordinance pretty recently.

This would seem to truly short circuit this.

The knife provision in SA was ridiculous. You see such knives all over the place and sold everywhere.
That is existing language that has existed in the Texas Local Government Code since 1985. That San Antonio ordinance has been void for thirty years.

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