Debate/Town Hall Meeting with Cotton & Grisham?

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Would you attend a debate/town hall meeting between Charles Cotton and C.J. Grisham?

Yes
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No
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Re: Debate/Town Hall Meeting with Cotton & Grisham?

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Charles L. Cotton wrote:I just posted the invitation on my Facebook account. Feel free to share it. Let's see if CJ will participate.

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Re: Debate/Town Hall Meeting with Cotton & Grisham?

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CJ has started spewing his excuses for not excepting the challenge...

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NRA board member Charles Cotton doesn't want to debate Moms Demand Action, Coalition To Stop Gun Violence, Gabby Giffords, Michael Bloomberg, Everytown for Gun Safety, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, Art Acevedo, Poncho Nevarez, or anyone else in the gun control astroturf crowd trying to strip our rights from us. He wants to debate ME. Speaks volumes about what has happened to that once great organization and a perfect example of why I'm so disillusioned with them.
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Re: Debate/Town Hall Meeting with Cotton & Grisham?

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Open Carry Texas has changed to a "closed" Faceboook group. I guess they don't really believe in American rights and values. Their tactics are those of a fringe group trying to destroy established organizations while promoting themselves as a new group to "get things done." I'm sure the leader does not have enough conviction in his beliefs to defend them in a debate since he seems to want to hide his groups thoughts from the public.
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Re: Debate/Town Hall Meeting with Cotton & Grisham?

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longhorn86 wrote:CJ has started spewing his excuses for not excepting the challenge...

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NRA board member Charles Cotton doesn't want to debate Moms Demand Action, Coalition To Stop Gun Violence, Gabby Giffords, Michael Bloomberg, Everytown for Gun Safety, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, Art Acevedo, Poncho Nevarez, or anyone else in the gun control astroturf crowd trying to strip our rights from us. He wants to debate ME. Speaks volumes about what has happened to that once great organization and a perfect example of why I'm so disillusioned with them.
CJ, I've debated countless anti-gunner over the last 35 years, but that's not the issue. What are you afraid of? Let's let Texas gun owners see what each of us truly stand for.

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Re: Debate/Town Hall Meeting with Cotton & Grisham?

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Charles L. Cotton wrote:
longhorn86 wrote:CJ has started spewing his excuses for not excepting the challenge...

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NRA board member Charles Cotton doesn't want to debate Moms Demand Action, Coalition To Stop Gun Violence, Gabby Giffords, Michael Bloomberg, Everytown for Gun Safety, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, Art Acevedo, Poncho Nevarez, or anyone else in the gun control astroturf crowd trying to strip our rights from us. He wants to debate ME. Speaks volumes about what has happened to that once great organization and a perfect example of why I'm so disillusioned with them.
CJ, I've debated countless anti-gunner over the last 35 years, but that's not the issue. What are you afraid of? Let's let Texas gun owners see what each of us truly stand for.

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Re: Debate/Town Hall Meeting with Cotton & Grisham?

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I'd be interested in hearing more details. I hit yes.
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Re: Debate/Town Hall Meeting with Cotton & Grisham?

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SewTexas wrote:I'd be interested in hearing more details. I hit yes.
Apparently there won't be any more details since CJ has already posted on his closed Facebook page that he won't participate in a debate/town hall meeting.

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He/they really don't want to hear from responsible, diligent gun owner(s). Those that silently and respectfully know their rights and are always on the watch for those things that can impact them.

You tried, he denied. That's how activist roll. Go figure.

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Wow Charles wins, and no words were exchanged face to face...
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Re: Debate/Town Hall Meeting with Cotton & Grisham?

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Charles L. Cotton wrote:
SewTexas wrote:I'd be interested in hearing more details. I hit yes.
Apparently there won't be any more details since CJ has already posted on his closed Facebook page that he won't participate in a debate/town hall meeting.

Chas.
He knows he'll show himself to be a true buffoon. He stands no chance of holding his own in a logical debate. Emotion and bullying are the only things he knows.
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Re: Debate/Town Hall Meeting with Cotton & Grisham?

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Charles L. Cotton wrote:
SewTexas wrote:I'd be interested in hearing more details. I hit yes.
Apparently there won't be any more details since CJ has already posted on his closed Facebook page that he won't participate in a debate/town hall meeting.

Chas.
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Re: Debate/Town Hall Meeting with Cotton & Grisham?

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Just to cover all the bases, I would offer him a counter proposal -- Offer to invite CJ and whoever the anti 2A flavor of the moment is. My guess is neither would accept. CJ can't get a CHL, and the anti folks don't want anyone to have CHL's, much less licensed open carry.

Also -- the town hall would have to be run/organized completely independent of Mr. Cotton. (or any panel member actually)

Who ever asked the questions would have total control. There would be no interrupting other panel members during their answers. Rebuttals would be allowed, but only at the discretion of the moderator/questioner.

No outbursts would allowed by audience members, and anyone who did, would be immediately escorted out.

An equal number of questions would be asked of each panel member, but answers would be time limited, at the discretion of the moderator/questioner. Filibustering will not be tolerated. Non-answer answers will not be allowed. Non-sequiturs will not be allowed. "I'd like to go back to.." answers will not be allowed, and that turn at an answer will be forfeited.

Just my .02

Edit: First three questions --

Mr. Grisham -- Have you applied for a Texas CHL? and if not, why not? If you did, was it denied?

To the anti CHL type -- Why shouldn't citizens be able to protect themselves from criminals/home invaders/car jackers?

Mr. Cotton -- What do law abiding citizens gain by allowing students on college campuses to carry concealed firearms?
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Re: Debate/Town Hall Meeting with Cotton & Grisham?

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I think you should include the Brady Bunch and MDA.
Have Mr. Lott as the mediator.
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Re: Debate/Town Hall Meeting with Cotton & Grisham?

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SRO1911 wrote: CJ Grisham If he wanted pro 2A groups to work together why has he been been fighting OCT since day one?
Because they have been as, nearly, and in some cases more harmful than some of those anti organizations to gun rights.
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Re: Debate/Town Hall Meeting with Cotton & Grisham?

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In regards to Grisham's statement about Charles Cotton "fighting OCT since day 1" I would like to point out that Grisham/OCT takes the position that if you do not agree with them and try to convince them to try your course of action that you are fighting them. I personally arranged for Grisham, Alice Tripp, and Charles Cotton to all have a discussion on the record regarding OC efforts last year. Charles and Alice were willing to work with them is Grisham/OCT cleaned up their act. Needless to say OCT instead went on to do Bloomberg and Dudley Brown's bidding by attacking the NRA and TSRA while crying "No Compromise". Grisham/OCT and others actively tried to scuttle HB910 and SB17 in an effort to promote unlicensed carry, when it became obvious that unlicensed carry was dead they jumped on board to support the Licensed OC bill and claimed it was their own.
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