MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video

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Post by K.Mooneyham » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:36 am

If you read the story of the dismissal of the charges, you will find the word I most despise on the subject of firearms: "brandish". Some folks out on the interwebs like to bash on Texas' firearms laws, but at least we don't have to worry about that word or any of its derivatives. I despise that word because it has such a vague meaning that obviously can be twisted and misused so easily. Anyway, glad to see the charges against the couple were thrown out.


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Post by Ruark » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:51 am

Yeah, Gardner is a well known liberal leftist. She prosecutes less than 25% of the cases brought to her by the police, and she released the looters and burners that were initially arrested back when the riots started. She described the McCloskey's actions as "a violent assault."

The St. Louis Police Officers Association, the union that represents the St. Louis city police, has labeled her policies a “criminal empowerment agenda.” Cripes, how does someone like that become a Circuit Attorney???
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Post by ELB » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:59 am

03Lightningrocks wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:09 am
... I will show some enthusiasm when the leftist dictator that used her office to persecute these people is fired.
She is having her own problems with her bogus investigation of the previous Republican governor. She succeeded in getting him out of office which put the present Governor in place. The ex-FBI outside investigator she hired to investigate the previous governor is facing trial for six or seven counts of perjury based on his "work" on that case. The special prosecutor that indicted the investigator is still apparently investigating Gardner as well.

She is up for reelection and has a challenger. You may wish to review the following links:

St. Louis prosecutor targeting McCloskeys gets $78,000 infusion from Soros-linked group

Gardner's opponent in the Democratic primary:
Friends of Mary Pat Carl

Republican uncontested in the primary to run against the Democratic primary winner in the General Election:
Zdrodowski for Circuit Attorney
I dunno what kind of chance a Republican has against a Dem in St Louis.
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Post by Paladin » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:05 pm

Ruark wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:51 am
Yeah, Gardner is a well known liberal leftist. She prosecutes less than 25% of the cases brought to her by the police, and she released the looters and burners that were initially arrested back when the riots started. She described the McCloskey's actions as "a violent assault."

The St. Louis Police Officers Association, the union that represents the St. Louis city police, has labeled her policies a “criminal empowerment agenda.” Cripes, how does someone like that become a Circuit Attorney???
The most obvious answer to how she became a circuit attorney is organized crime. Organized crime gets one of their own in a key office, to cut their people loose after the police arrest them and lock up their adversaries. Organized crime's adversaries include both rival criminals and law abiding citizens protecting their property.
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Post by Grayling813 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:44 pm

Paladin wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:05 pm
Ruark wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:51 am
Yeah, Gardner is a well known liberal leftist. She prosecutes less than 25% of the cases brought to her by the police, and she released the looters and burners that were initially arrested back when the riots started. She described the McCloskey's actions as "a violent assault."

The St. Louis Police Officers Association, the union that represents the St. Louis city police, has labeled her policies a “criminal empowerment agenda.” Cripes, how does someone like that become a Circuit Attorney???
The most obvious answer to how she became a circuit attorney is organized crime. Organized crime gets one of their own in a key office, to cut their people loose after the police arrest them and lock up their adversaries. Organized crime's adversaries include both rival criminals and law abiding citizens protecting their property.
It would be accurate to categorize the government of the city of St. Louis as organized crime, run by the local Democrats
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Post by Redneck_Buddha » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:50 pm

Paladin wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:05 pm
Ruark wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:51 am
Yeah, Gardner is a well known liberal leftist. She prosecutes less than 25% of the cases brought to her by the police, and she released the looters and burners that were initially arrested back when the riots started. She described the McCloskey's actions as "a violent assault."

The St. Louis Police Officers Association, the union that represents the St. Louis city police, has labeled her policies a “criminal empowerment agenda.” Cripes, how does someone like that become a Circuit Attorney???
The most obvious answer to how she became a circuit attorney is organized crime. Organized crime gets one of their own in a key office, to cut their people loose after the police arrest them and lock up their adversaries. Organized crime's adversaries include both rival criminals and law abiding citizens protecting their property.
Sometimes it takes involvement by the U.S. Attorney's office, ala NYC mob circa 1970s-1980s.

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Post by Keith B » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:25 pm

K.Mooneyham wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:36 am
If you read the story of the dismissal of the charges, you will find the word I most despise on the subject of firearms: "brandish". Some folks out on the interwebs like to bash on Texas' firearms laws, but at least we don't have to worry about that word or any of its derivatives. I despise that word because it has such a vague meaning that obviously can be twisted and misused so easily. Anyway, glad to see the charges against the couple were thrown out.
Missouri does use the term in some of the statues related to permitted concealed carry. However, what really constitutes brandishing is complex, and Texas law of ‘displaying in a threatening manner’ can be basically the same thing. Here’s a pretty good article on the term related to this case https://www.thetrace.org/2020/07/armed- ... f-defense/
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Post by stroo » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:50 pm

George Soros funded the elections of far left "prosecutors" in major cities a across the country. Including Dallas and Houston, maybe San Antonio a d Austin too. Gardner's was one of those. These "prosecutors" have done tremendous damage across the country.


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Post by philip964 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:34 pm

Will the judge in St Louis refuse to drop the charges, order a Amicus brief from someone else and take it to an appeals court twice?


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Post by K.Mooneyham » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:22 am

Keith B wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:25 pm
K.Mooneyham wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:36 am
If you read the story of the dismissal of the charges, you will find the word I most despise on the subject of firearms: "brandish". Some folks out on the interwebs like to bash on Texas' firearms laws, but at least we don't have to worry about that word or any of its derivatives. I despise that word because it has such a vague meaning that obviously can be twisted and misused so easily. Anyway, glad to see the charges against the couple were thrown out.
Missouri does use the term in some of the statues related to permitted concealed carry. However, what really constitutes brandishing is complex, and Texas law of ‘displaying in a threatening manner’ can be basically the same thing. Here’s a pretty good article on the term related to this case https://www.thetrace.org/2020/07/armed- ... f-defense/
I would take some council from what you stated because you have experience. It would seem to me, however, that since the phrase in Texas law is "displaying in a threatening manner", then the opposite can also be proven, such as "did NOT display in a threatening manner"/"displayed in a non-threatening manner". I simply find that the word "brandish" conjures up instantaneous mental images in people's minds when they hear it, since it gets used so often by news stories and the entertainment industry via police shows and legal dramas, and thus is open to wide interpretation, unless the laws of a particular jurisdiction more narrowly define the word.


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Post by philip964 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:25 pm

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/crim ... 1a482e945e

Suggest you quickly reaccess this evidence says St Louis prosecutor to police in new documents uncovered.

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