NRA and Russia

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NRA and Russia

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Post by chasfm11 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:27 pm

I was poking around, looking for the NY Times article against which Thomas Sowell penned a rebutal in December, 2016. My search turned up this gem from last month.

Breathtaking was my first reaction after reading it. Goldberg has apparently been scouring the universe, looking for dots to connect the NRA to Russia.
The result appears to be as substantial as a black hole in space.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/19/opin ... %20Control

Looks like a really long shot at a "two-fer" to me - trying to smear the NRA and the Trump Presidential campaign in the same space. The Russians and the American Conservatives. Now that is a match made in heaven if there ever was one. :biggrinjester:
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Post by Chaparral » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:12 pm

It is curious, though, that an NRA delegation would be visiting a repressive, totalitarian state like Russia, and that a former Duma member and deputy head of the Russian central bank would attend the NRA convention. I would like to see the National Rifle Association clarify its relationships with any foreign entities.

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Chaparral wrote:It is curious, though, that an NRA delegation would be visiting a repressive, totalitarian state like Russia, and that a former Duma member and deputy head of the Russian central bank would attend the NRA convention. I would like to see the National Rifle Association clarify its relationships with any foreign entities.
Not so strange. Know your enemy and what you are fighting for.

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Post by The Annoyed Man » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:08 am

In other news, OJ is still looking for his ex-wife’s killer........
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The Annoyed Man wrote:In other news, OJ is still looking for his ex-wife’s killer........
Jimmy Hoffa is still missing......

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Post by allisji » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:43 am

Tucker Carlson last night played a scintillating little video clip of precious little Adam Schiff claiming that Russia is attempting to prop up our second amendment so that we will all kill eachother. Fast forward to 4:35 in the embedded youtube.


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Post by The Annoyed Man » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:25 am

allisji wrote:Tucker Carlson last night played a scintillating little video clip of precious little Adam Schiff claiming that Russia is attempting to prop up our second amendment so that we will all kill eachother. Fast forward to 4:35 in the embedded youtube.


https://youtu.be/dVKnHHF9mXA?t=4m35s
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Post by dino9832 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:50 am

Did they stop to think about that "theory" at all?
For a government to go to war, they need to ramp up arms production. Then ramp up recruitment of military personnel.
Train them, and also provide barracks, bases, etc.. How long does that take? What if the threat was an immediate invasion? And how would they finance such a thing?

In America, ramp up arms production? Our factories are already pumping out millions of firearms a year. At the expense of the gun buyer, not the government! Training? Seriously, how many gun ranges and avid shooters are in the USA? The infrastructure is already there. There are guys on this forum alone that have thousands invested in firearms. Any foreign government need only look on the internet to see proof of this.
The thing is, trained and well armed Americans (in gun friendly states) are in most every neighborhood. Even walking the streets armed.
Kinda makes you proud to be an American! :patriot:
So how does this help Russia? :smilelol5:

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Post by chasfm11 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:03 pm

I saw both the Swalwell interview and the segment with Mark Steyn when they were broadcast.

The worrisome point for me out of all of this is the constant attacks on everyone at all levels. I have no doubt that all of the manure flinging at the National level has emboldened some of the locals to follow suite because I've seen some more of it personally. I've seen attacks on my church and on the NRA. Anyone who goes to the church is a hater because the church believes xxxxxx. The local anti-gun nuts have really come out and use the NRA as the whipping post. They hate Trump and by association anyone who voted for him. They hate the NRA and by association any member. While I've never been a fan of bumper and window stickers, this seems like a really good time not to have them. You never know when some off the rails kook is going to decide to take their ire out on your vehicle.

The OP article seems to be all the fuel that they need.
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Post by BBYC » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:07 pm

That second picture looks more like Israel than the USA.
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Post by sjfcontrol » Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:10 pm

BBYC wrote:That second picture looks more like Israel than the USA.
Check out the ice-cream cone just to the left of the girl in the red top -- really checking out that rifle!! :shock:
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Post by dino9832 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:30 pm

sjfcontrol wrote:
BBYC wrote:That second picture looks more like Israel than the USA.
Check out the ice-cream cone just to the left of the girl in the red top -- really checking out that rifle!! :shock:
I bet the guy behind the counter doesn't screw up their orders! :mrgreen:
I originally found the picture here: http://presentationsunplugged.com/blog/ ... t-the-rnc/
doing a search on "McDonald's open carry."

Sure enough, I found the same picture here: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/553942822893594344/
It's a Pinterest page dedicated to IDF, or Israel Defense Forces! And here I thought it was Texas. :txflag:


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Post by crazy2medic » Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:31 pm

dino9832 wrote:Did they stop to think about that "theory" at all?
For a government to go to war, they need to ramp up arms production. Then ramp up recruitment of military personnel.
Train them, and also provide barracks, bases, etc.. How long does that take? What if the threat was an immediate invasion? And how would they finance such a thing?

In America, ramp up arms production? Our factories are already pumping out millions of firearms a year. At the expense of the gun buyer, not the government! Training? Seriously, how many gun ranges and avid shooters are in the USA? The infrastructure is already there. There are guys on this forum alone that have thousands invested in firearms. Any foreign government need only look on the internet to see proof of this.
The thing is, trained and well armed Americans (in gun friendly states) are in most every neighborhood. Even walking the streets armed.
Kinda makes you proud to be an American! :patriot:
So how does this help Russia? :smilelol5:

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This was very true prior to and during WW1, we were a nation of riflemen, WW2 there was still enough rural America to produce riflemen in large numbers, men who grew up with a gun in their hands, even now there are Millions of Americans in the possession of Millions of guns and Billions of rounds of ammuntion, no matter how you slice it, that is one heck of an army! I have been shooting since I was 4yo, hunting since I was 10yo, I taught my son to shoot at 4 and he was hunting at 7, I know others that are products of their family teaching the art of the rifle, mess with this segment of America at your own peril!
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Post by jmorris » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:59 pm

dino9832 wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:
BBYC wrote:That second picture looks more like Israel than the USA.
Check out the ice-cream cone just to the left of the girl in the red top -- really checking out that rifle!! :shock:
I bet the guy behind the counter doesn't screw up their orders! :mrgreen:
I originally found the picture here: http://presentationsunplugged.com/blog/ ... t-the-rnc/
doing a search on "McDonald's open carry."

Sure enough, I found the same picture here: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/553942822893594344/
It's a Pinterest page dedicated to IDF, or Israel Defense Forces! And here I thought it was Texas. :txflag:
Interesting. They all appear to have a magazine connector but two appear to have their magazines rubber banded to the pistol grip.
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Post by TreyHouston » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:05 pm

Well, you can not be accused of being a threat if its not loaded!
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