Speaker Bonnen's betrayal of Texas gun-owners

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Re: Speaker Bonnen's betrayal of Texas gun-owners

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Post by mojo84 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:54 am

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Didn’t someone post about Straus supporting this guy? Red flags should have went up then!
It's my understanding he is and has been a Straus ally.
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Re: Speaker Bonnen's betrayal of Texas gun-owners

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Post by 1911 Raptor » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:24 am

mojo84 wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:54 am
1911 Raptor wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:31 am
Didn’t someone post about Straus supporting this guy? Red flags should have went up then!
It's my understanding he is and has been a Straus ally.
2nd red flag should have been when every single democrat voted for him. It just amazes me how the minority party seems to always get what they want. We are being played by both sides!


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Post by crazy2medic » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:24 am

I was worried my representative Phil King was going to be speaker of the house, I guess Bonnen was a chameleon!
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1911 Raptor wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:31 am
Didn’t someone post about Straus supporting this guy? Red flags should have went up then!
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Post by canvasbck » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:18 am

If support can be found, I'd be happy to present Mr. Bonnen with a primary challenge. He lives in the wrong district to turn his back on gun owners!
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Post by ELB » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:31 am

The Texas GOP held caucuses at from precinct state level to determine, among other things, the legislative priorities the Texas GOP would stand for. There were a lot of people and a lot of time invested in this.

Number one was Constitutional Carry.

The others are End Taxpayer-Funded Lobbying, Pro-Life, Property Tax, and Religious Freedom & Privacy.

With his committee appointments Bonnen just told the Texas GOP to pound sand on Constitutional Carry, and in all likelihood the rest as well.
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Re: Speaker Bonnen's betrayal of Texas gun-owners

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Post by Papa_Tiger » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:52 am

https://texasscorecard.com/state/bonnen ... xas-house/

Interesting take on the House Committee appointments:
The Committee on Homeland Security and Public Safety has now been given to Democrat State Rep. Poncho Nevarez (Eagle Pass). While pro-gun legislation had traditionally been sent to this committee, it may be a sign that bills such as constitutional carry could be sent to the Committee on State Affairs instead.
I think part of the logic in appointment of Rep. Nevarez is likely because of this:
“After thoughtful consideration, the following assignments have been made to reflect the seniority and personal preferences of members and the diverse demographics of the Texas House,” said Bonnen.

Bonnen said he was able to meet with over 140 of the 147 current lawmakers in the process and assured members that he went to great lengths in his consideration of the members’ respective districts when deciding which committees to assign them.
Rep. Nevarez has been on the Committee on Homeland Security and Public Safety for quite a while (he was vice-chair in both the 84th and 85th Legislatures).

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Post by RoyGBiv » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:20 am

Papa_Tiger wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:52 am
https://texasscorecard.com/state/bonnen ... xas-house/

Interesting take on the House Committee appointments:
The Committee on Homeland Security and Public Safety has now been given to Democrat State Rep. Poncho Nevarez (Eagle Pass). While pro-gun legislation had traditionally been sent to this committee, it may be a sign that bills such as constitutional carry could be sent to the Committee on State Affairs instead.
Let's hope so.... I suppose we'll find out shortly.
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Post by mojo84 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:31 am

While pro-gun legislation had traditionally been sent to this committee, it may be a sign that bills such as constitutional carry could be sent to the Committee on State Affairs instead.
If this is accurate, maybe this thread and some of our ( mine included) reactions were knee-jerk and premature.

However, based up on some information I've seen, links previously provided, I still do not hold out much hope Bonnen is going to prove to be a staunch fiscal conservative or will aggressively pursue pro-gun legislation. At this point, I hope we do not lose any ground.

Hope I am wrong.
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Post by proudpirate » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:34 am

"So this is how liberty dies . . . with thunderous applause." - Senator Amidala (Star Wars: Episode III: Revenge of Sith)

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Re: Speaker Bonnen's betrayal of Texas gun-owners

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Post by TexasJohnBoy » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:37 am

mojo84 wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:31 am
While pro-gun legislation had traditionally been sent to this committee, it may be a sign that bills such as constitutional carry could be sent to the Committee on State Affairs instead.
If this is accurate, maybe this thread and some of our ( mine included) reactions were knee-jerk and premature.

However, based up on some information I've seen, links previously provided, I still do not hold out much hope Bonnen is going to prove to be a staunch fiscal conservative or will aggressively pursue pro-gun legislation. At this point, I hope we do not lose any ground.

Hope I am wrong.
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Re: Speaker Bonnen's betrayal of Texas gun-owners

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Post by Flightmare » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:37 am

While I was disappointed, as many were, to learn of the chair appointment to the Homeland Security and Public Safety committee, there have been no bills heard by any committees. Many good bills were killed quietly under Straus, but there WERE some advances as well. I am willing to be patient and see how this session goes.
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Re: Speaker Bonnen's betrayal of Texas gun-owners

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Post by Soccerdad1995 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:51 am

I'm having a hard time understanding why any committee chairs are members of the minority party. Is this the way that things are traditionally done in the Texas house? I believe at the federal level, committee chairs are all members of the majority party (currently democrats for the House).

Can someone enlighten me on whether we typically have Democratic committee chairs appointed in a Republican majority state House, and Republican committee chairs appointed in a Democratic majority state House?
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Post by mojo84 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:52 am

Since I try be more than a one issue voter, there are other reasons besides gun rights that I am very disappointed Poncho is the chairman of the Homeland Security committee.

I can also respect opinions that differ from mine.
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Re: Speaker Bonnen's betrayal of Texas gun-owners

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Post by E.Marquez » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:32 pm

Chas, are there rules in place that a bill must go to committee A vs B?
If a bill historically goes to Homeland security for consideration, is it required, or just normal?

Could the type of bill that in the past has always gone to homeland security, in this session be put to some other committee?

If so, who controls what bill goes to what committee?
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