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WWB failures

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Post by skeathley » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:30 pm

Beware of Winchester White Box ammo. I knew it was lame, but last week a student in my class had two squibs in 10 minutes. Luckily, he knew something went wrong, so he did not fire again and ruin his barrel.

This was a bulk package from Cabela's, so probably even lower quality than usual.

My guess is that the students most likely to buy WWB are also least likely to recognize a squib if it happens.

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Post by Teamless » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:25 am

I have shot thousands of WWB 9mm, and had 1 or 2 light strikes.
I do hear people at times commenting something similar to what you say, but over millions and millions of rounds made, while perfection would be great, having less than .00001% (and that’s probably a bit of an understatement) failure is still really good
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Post by Liberty » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:21 am

It's pretty much all I ever run through my handguns for years. (these days its WWB NATO) Thousands of rounds, never a single issue. All the same there seems to be an issue with this particular lot.I hope that OLIN is contacted with the lot numbers and information on what happened.
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Post by bmwrdr » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:27 am

Teamless wrote:I have shot thousands of WWB 9mm, and had 1 or 2 light strikes.
I do hear people at times commenting something similar to what you say, but over millions and millions of rounds made, while perfection would be great, having less than .00001% (and that’s probably a bit of an understatement) failure is still really good
:iagree: I used WWB 9 mm many times and haven't had a single issue. It is odd that one boox contained 2 bad rounds. The only plausible cause coming to my mind is the fact that tools wear out over time and that applies to any mechanical part which in turn can cause tolerances in the manufactured ammo.
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Post by cmgee67 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:36 am

I had 5 light primer strikes one day in a shield 9mm a friend of mine let my try out but I discovered afterwords that he had not cleaned the gun in over a year and carried it daily and lent and other boogery stuff had gotten in the striker and slowed it down. Once cleaned the issue resolved. And those 5 were out of 15 rounds so I knew it had to be the gun and you could tell on the primer it wasn’t hit hard enough.
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Post by rob777 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:01 am

Liberty wrote:It's pretty much all I ever run through my handguns for years. (these days its WWB NATO) Thousands of rounds, never a single issue.
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Pretty much all I ever use on the range and what I recommend to students who ask for recommendations. I've never had an issue.
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Post by RPBrown » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:38 am

I cannot remember ever having an issue with WWB and like others, I have put several thousand rounds down range. I did see a guy at the gun show a year or so ago that had reloads in a WWB box as well as some in Remington and Federal boxes. I can't say that he was trying to pass them off as new but looking at the individual rounds, they were not very good reloads. I never spoke to the guy and once I opened a box and looked at them, I closed it up and kept walking.
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Post by warnmar10 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:59 am

I ran 100 rounds of 230gr WWB through my XDs yesterday with no issues.


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Post by flechero » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:09 am

skeathley wrote:two squibs in 10 minutes
The guy whose job it is to fill the powder hoppers probably had a potty break at the wrong time! :shock:

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Post by oljames3 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:13 am

I've fired over 300 rounds of 9mm 115 grain full metal jacket Winchester White Box over the past 2 weekends without issue. I'm carrying WWB jacketed hollow point self defense rounds right now. WWB has been my ammo of choice sense I bought my first privately owned pistol in 2013.
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Post by cyphur » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:16 am

I've had issues with WWB in pistols with tight tolerances, especially 45ACP. I haven't had issues in loose or production grade guns in any caliber.


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Post by rotor » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:31 am

I have never had a squib with any ammo and I pretty much buy them all.


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Post by imkopaka » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:33 am

WWB is all I ever practice with for my .45 and it used to be all I practiced with in 9mm. Never had an issue with it. *shrug* Mistakes happen, so bad lots happen.
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