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Police: Woman Shoots Stalker To Death After Break-In
Woman Endured Many Incidents With Stalker, Police Said

POSTED: 1:23 pm CST November 14, 2007
UPDATED: 2:15 pm CST November 14, 2007


An accused stalker was shot to death Monday night by the object of his obsession after he broke into her Hessville home, police told the Northwest Indiana Times.

Hammond resident Ryan Lee Bergner, 41, was pronounced dead from gunshot wounds to his abdomen shortly after 10:30 p.m. at a local hospital.

According to the Times, Bergner went on a date with the 51-year-old woman last June, and his behavior became obsessive, offensive and violent.

On Monday night, the woman was watching television in her living room when she said she heard Bergner break a bathroom window near her back door and called 911.

A friend had given the woman a pistol for protection earlier in the day.

After the 911 operator told her to lock herself in her bedroom until police could come, she ran upstairs to do so and retrieved the gun.

This was the second time in recent days that Bergner broke into her home, breaking a back window, destroying a clock radio and stealing several of her undergarments over the weekend.

Police records show Bergner also allegedly had tried to kick in the woman's front door a week before that, and also allegedly accosted her at her job and being ejected from the business by her co-workers.

He also was suspected of slashing her Jeep's tires on at least two occasions, police records show.

"This isn't over yet," Bergner told the woman on Nov. 3, according to police reports.

Hiding in her closet on Monday night, the woman said she heard Bergner enter the bedroom, then watched as he opened the closet door.

She said she told him to stop, but he kept coming. She fired the gun three times.

She said he then proceeded to choke her violently before collapsing to the floor.

"I was shaking so bad, I didn't think I'd hit him," the woman recalled Tuesday afternoon. "He just kept coming… I didn't want it to end this way."

Bergner had not been charged in any of the half-dozen previous complaints made against him.

"We only went out on that one date," the woman told the Times on Tuesday. "I got a look at his temper, and realized I didn't want anything to do with him. But he wouldn't take no for an answer."
Copyright 2007 by NBC5.com. All rights reserved.

stevie_d_64 wrote:

age_ranger wrote:If this doesn't spell it out enough, nothing ever will. It's gut wrenching and I think every CHL holder and gun owner should listen to it. Didn't see this posted anywhere so forgive me if it's a double post.

[911 operator] "Don't want to do anything rash..."

I feel extremely sympathetic to this woman...She had to put up with a lot before this incident...Somebody (the deceased) just plain misjudged a persons will to not put up with it any longer...

I bet that RO (that she surely had to have) would have prevented this...

Lucky45 wrote:Original Report

Police: Woman Shoots Stalker To Death After Break-In
Woman Endured Many Incidents With Stalker, Police Said

POSTED: 1:23 pm CST November 14, 2007
UPDATED: 2:15 pm CST November 14, 2007

She said she told him to stop, but he kept coming. She fired the gun three times.

She said he then proceeded to choke her violently before collapsing to the floor.

dihappy wrote:

Lucky45 wrote:Original Report

Police: Woman Shoots Stalker To Death After Break-In
Woman Endured Many Incidents With Stalker, Police Said

POSTED: 1:23 pm CST November 14, 2007
UPDATED: 2:15 pm CST November 14, 2007

She said she told him to stop, but he kept coming. She fired the gun three times.

She said he then proceeded to choke her violently before collapsing to the floor.

Shot placement, Shot placement, Shot placement, night sights :)

Skiprr wrote:Charles and CompVest (and other instructors):

If you're like me, the editorializing--at least not all of it--in the video isn't something I'd like to show. I think the audio by itself, with no accompaniment, might actually be more powerful in a classroom. And of course, depending on the setup you have available, you can burn the audio to CD to play on a portable boom-box and not have to rely on PC speakers.

I captured the 911 call only and converted it to .WMA (common Windows media format) and .MP3 formats. You can right-click on the links below, then select "Save Target As" to download the files:

911-call_2007-11-17.wma - 1.3MB

911-call_2007-11-17.mp3 - 4MB

dihappy wrote:

stevie_d_64 wrote:

age_ranger wrote:If this doesn't spell it out enough, nothing ever will. It's gut wrenching and I think every CHL holder and gun owner should listen to it. Didn't see this posted anywhere so forgive me if it's a double post.

[911 operator] "Don't want to do anything rash..."

I feel extremely sympathetic to this woman...She had to put up with a lot before this incident...Somebody (the deceased) just plain misjudged a persons will to not put up with it any longer...

I bet that RO (that she surely had to have) would have prevented this...

I will admit that this 911 Operator was a bit more helpful than probably ANY others i have heard recorded in the past.

When will these 911 Operators get trained properly?
I would of told that lady, "Ma'am, you do whatever you have to do to defend yourself" :)

CHL/LEO wrote:Charles:

Can you post this as a sticky so that we can easily find it? This will be great for CHL Instructors to use in class, along with all of us being able to share with others and hopefully convince them that they, not LEOs, are responsible for their own safety.

Perhaps there's a way for you to duplicate it on both Never Again and Women's General so visitors to there will also see it...

Thanks