Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

Gun, shooting and equipment discussions unrelated to CHL issues

Moderator: carlson1

Post Reply

Topic author
Russell
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 2878
Joined: Sat May 20, 2006 12:46 pm

Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

#1

Post by Russell » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:14 pm

Hi ya'll,

To start off with, I am not very familiar with rifles and what to look for / what to stay away from. I do know I want an AR-10 chambered in .308.

I want a brand of rifle that is hopefully going to eat any brand of ammo much like my Glock. Don't need the bells and whistles on it to start off with - I do plan on putting a scope on it at some point.

Any recommendations?
http://www.texas3006.com - Texas 30.06 and 30.07 Signage Database.
Join us on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/texas3006


strogg
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 828
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:51 pm
Location: DFW (Denton County)

Re: Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

#2

Post by strogg » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:26 pm

If you're looking for an AR10 style rifle, I'd stick with something with the DPMS pattern. They are much more prevalent parts-wise. They did originally come in the Armalite pattern, but those are rarer.

I'd stay away from any lower end brands. Stick with name brands that make their parts in-house or source parts from higher end companies. You'll be surprised what kinds of barrels and configurations are out there that are ludicrously unreliable. For example, there are many Aero Precision rifles with barrels that are not headspaced properly from the factory, and those cannot be fixed without replacing the entire barrel assembly. CMMG barrels are the same way. To make it worse, there are barrels out there with gas blocks just a couple inches from the muzzle. Think rifle length gas on a 16 inch barrel. Uh uh. Those are typically under gassed, and with the wrong ammo with faster burning powder, they will constantly short stroke.

For good brands, LMT and DD come to mind.

User avatar

AF-Odin
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 468
Joined: Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:00 pm
Location: Near Fort Hood

Re: Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

#3

Post by AF-Odin » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:53 pm

I had a DPMS Oracle in .308/7.62x51. Rifle worked flawlessly for me and ate every ammo I fed it from commercial, GI Lake City, various milsurp Brit and German rounds nd even steel cased Russian stuff. Only reason I sold it was that I was downsizing the collection and compared to my 5.56 ARs was VERRRY heavy. Not a problem sitting in the blind waiting for hogs, but a chore to lug back and forth (for me). Also, I had other rifles in .308 that are quite a bit lighter, but none are semis.
AF-Odin
Texas LTC & SSC Instructor
NRA Pistol, Home Firearms Safety, Personal Protection in the Home Instructor & RSO
NRA & TSRA Life Member

User avatar

Rafe
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 461
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:43 pm
Location: Htown

Re: Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

#4

Post by Rafe » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:06 pm

I think I might add LaRue Tactical to strogg's list. Not only a Texas company (in Leander), but they make consistent quality stuff. A friend has one of their PredatOBR 7.62 models with a 20" barrel, and he swears if he could keep only one long gun, that would be it. I've shot it several times--popped a couple of hogs with it--and it's a tank. They also make a 7.62 in a somewhat lighter-weight model; don't remember what that one's called. The downside is that, to my knowledge, there's almost always a waiting list for their rifles.

Another friend swears by his POF-USA "Revolution." This one has an adjustable gas piston system, but it's a lot lighter than the LaRue PredatOBR. It's also a shorter 16.5" barrel. I've shot this one only a few times, but I have to say it shoots awfully soft for a lightweight .308. I assume it's the gas system. On the downside, what I've heard is that if you get a good POF, you've got a gem. But if you get a lemon, support can be problematic. And there seem to be some lemons that get shipped, but I can't actually confirm that (kinda sorta the Kimber of the AR-style rifle world?).

I have a LaRue cap that my buddy gave me when he got his PredatOBR, so if I had the money I think I would, personally, look at a PredatOBR but in an 18" barrel. You know, already have the apparel. ;-) But if someone offered me a POF that seemed to function fine from the manufacturer, I wouldn't turn it down. I think you're at around $3.2 street price for the LaRue, and maybe $2.6K for the POF.

In my limited experience, I have no problem building a 5.56 AR from parts, but I think I'd want to spend the bucks to get a complete, above-mid-grade system if going .308 or 6.5 Creedmoor.
“Be ready; now is the beginning of happenings.”
― Robert E. Howard, Swords of Shahrazar


Grayling813
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 1185
Joined: Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:18 am

Re: Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

#5

Post by Grayling813 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:12 pm

Your biggest issue might be finding one in stock at a reasonable price. The past few days the only semi-auto .308 rifles I’ve seen in stock are Springfield M1A’s.
Last edited by Grayling813 on Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Keep asking the question, “Cui bono?” (For whose benefit?)
“Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves.”
~ Henry David Thoreau


parabelum
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 2243
Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:22 pm

Re: Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

#6

Post by parabelum » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:14 pm

I’m partial to the Tavor in .308 but I’d say that DPMS or Ruger SR762 are good choices. I’ve had both in the past and they ran great.
Credendo Vides


Topic author
Russell
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 2878
Joined: Sat May 20, 2006 12:46 pm

Re: Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

#7

Post by Russell » Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:58 am

Thanks for the feedback!

So, I settled on the thought of getting DPMS given the feedback here and what I have heard from others, but was surprised that there were only a few stores I could find that were selling exactly what I wanted. Then, I found this:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/is-re ... shuttered/
Remington Outdoor Company informed RSR at the SHOT Show that they will be focusing on their core hunting and shooting brands – AAC, Barnes, Marlin and Remington. Bushmaster, DPMS, StormLake Barrels and Tapco will no longer be produced, with the exception of the Bushmaster BA50.

DPMS will no longer be produced apparently! This is bonkers given the positive feedback I've seen from everywhere about this brand.

It almost makes me still want to grab it before it's no longer possible to do so.
http://www.texas3006.com - Texas 30.06 and 30.07 Signage Database.
Join us on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/texas3006

User avatar

Scott B.
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 1392
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:46 am
Location: Harris County

Re: Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

#8

Post by Scott B. » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:30 am

Russell wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:58 am
Thanks for the feedback!

So, I settled on the thought of getting DPMS given the feedback here and what I have heard from others, but was surprised that there were only a few stores I could find that were selling exactly what I wanted. Then, I found this:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/is-re ... shuttered/
Remington Outdoor Company informed RSR at the SHOT Show that they will be focusing on their core hunting and shooting brands – AAC, Barnes, Marlin and Remington. Bushmaster, DPMS, StormLake Barrels and Tapco will no longer be produced, with the exception of the Bushmaster BA50.

DPMS will no longer be produced apparently! This is bonkers given the positive feedback I've seen from everywhere about this brand.

It almost makes me still want to grab it before it's no longer possible to do so.
Take a look at the Palmetto State Armory PA10 rifles. Better spec than the M&P10 Sport rifles at similar dollars. Going a little pricier, the Sig 716 Tread is well put together.
LTC / SSC Instructor. NRA - Instructor, CRSO, Life Member.
Sig pistol/rifle & Glock armorer | FFL 07/02 SOT

User avatar

Rafe
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 461
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:43 pm
Location: Htown

Re: Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

#9

Post by Rafe » Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:20 pm

Russell wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:58 am
Then, I found this:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/is-re ... shuttered/
Remington Outdoor Company informed RSR at the SHOT Show that they will be focusing on their core hunting and shooting brands – AAC, Barnes, Marlin and Remington. Bushmaster, DPMS, StormLake Barrels and Tapco will no longer be produced, with the exception of the Bushmaster BA50.
DPMS will no longer be produced apparently!
Wow! I somehow had not seen this. How did I miss this news? It absolutely looks true. I just tried hitting the (former) DPMS and Bushmaster websites. What you'll find there is attached; just what the Truth About Guns article says. It sure as shootin' looks like Remington has shut them down for any new production/sales. I have no idea what that means for parts/service for existing owners. :shock:
Attachments
DPMS-website_200625.png
“Be ready; now is the beginning of happenings.”
― Robert E. Howard, Swords of Shahrazar

User avatar

suthdj
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 2295
Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:49 pm
Location: North Ft Worth(Alliance area)

Re: Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

#10

Post by suthdj » Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:37 pm

I have a Dpms LR308 I have laying around PM me if you want details and/ or to purchase.
21-Apr-09 filed online
05-Sep-09 Plastic Arrived
09-Sep-13 Plastic Arrived
21-june-18 Plasic Arrived


clarionite
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 673
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:09 pm

Re: Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

#11

Post by clarionite » Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:44 pm

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/871581266

I found this on gunbroker. $515 for an Upper/Lower kit. Another 160 for the barrel and gas block. Seems like a reasonable price. Especially for today's climate.

User avatar

Syntyr
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 1406
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:54 pm
Location: Houston
Contact:

Re: Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

#12

Post by Syntyr » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:50 pm

If you are interested in building one I just picked up a lower and upper matched DPMS set for 199 from CDNN.

https://www.cdnnsports.com/dpms-lr308-l ... l?___SID=U

Just make sure that if you go with the build versus buy that you get a matched upper and lower receiver set. They are not like AR15's which any upper will work with any lower as long as they are to spec. AR10s don't have that in common and there are subtle differences that will lead to gaps, misfitting parts and feeding issues.
Syntyr
"Wherever you go... There you are." - Remo Williams
"Inconceivable!" - Fizzinni

User avatar

Syntyr
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 1406
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:54 pm
Location: Houston
Contact:

Re: Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

#13

Post by Syntyr » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:52 pm

Rafe wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:20 pm
Russell wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:58 am
Then, I found this:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/is-re ... shuttered/
Remington Outdoor Company informed RSR at the SHOT Show that they will be focusing on their core hunting and shooting brands – AAC, Barnes, Marlin and Remington. Bushmaster, DPMS, StormLake Barrels and Tapco will no longer be produced, with the exception of the Bushmaster BA50.
DPMS will no longer be produced apparently!
Wow! I somehow had not seen this. How did I miss this news? It absolutely looks true. I just tried hitting the (former) DPMS and Bushmaster websites. What you'll find there is attached; just what the Truth About Guns article says. It sure as shootin' looks like Remington has shut them down for any new production/sales. I have no idea what that means for parts/service for existing owners. :shock:
Well of course. I finally push the button and I buy something out of production. :mad5
Syntyr
"Wherever you go... There you are." - Remo Williams
"Inconceivable!" - Fizzinni

User avatar

Rafe
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 461
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:43 pm
Location: Htown

Re: Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

#14

Post by Rafe » Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:27 pm

Syntyr wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:52 pm
Well of course. I finally push the button and I buy something out of production. :mad5
Well, a good deal on a matched DPMS upper/lower is still a good deal. :thumbsup: It'll shoot straight and reliably for a whole lotta years.
“Be ready; now is the beginning of happenings.”
― Robert E. Howard, Swords of Shahrazar

User avatar

The Annoyed Man
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 25779
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:59 pm
Location: North Richland Hills, Texas
Contact:

Re: Interested in an AR-10 style rifle in .308. Help me decide?

#15

Post by The Annoyed Man » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:58 am

Rafe wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:27 pm
Syntyr wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:52 pm
Well of course. I finally push the button and I buy something out of production. :mad5
Well, a good deal on a matched DPMS upper/lower is still a good deal. :thumbsup: It'll shoot straight and reliably for a whole lotta years.
The main thing is it will accept any SR25 type of magazine, which is the mil standard. Other brands, Rock River Arms for instance, use parts not used on other common brands. As I recall, the RRA "AR10s" use metric FAL magazines. They’re great rifles, the RRA barrels are good, and they shoot very well, but the lack of commonality of parts is a problem.
• Give me Liberty or I'll get up and get it myself.
• I don't carry because of the odds, I carry because of the stakes.
• My dream is to have lived my life so well that future generations of leftists will demand my name be removed from buildings.
• Independent Minarchist.

Post Reply

Return to “General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion”