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Post by philip964 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:05 pm

http://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blo ... cbeb3.html

Teacher, reserve officer, teaching justice administration class, discharges his gun while teaching gun safety, wounding three students.

Did I mention it was in California in a school.

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Post by Grundy1133 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:08 pm

philip964 wrote:
Did I mention it was in California in a school.
of course it was. that's where all the idiots live. :roll:
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Post by philip964 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:33 pm

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/mic ... l-bathroom

No they live in Michigan as well.

Sheriff leaves his gun in school bathroom by accident.

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Post by Liberty » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:20 am

philip964 wrote:http://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blo ... cbeb3.html

Teacher, reserve officer, teaching justice administration class, discharges his gun while teaching gun safety, wounding three students.

Did I mention it was in California in a school.
I only could see that a single person was slightly injured a male student was struck in the neck by "debris or fragmentation" from something overhead
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Post by Paladin » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:37 am

... it's against state law and district board policy to have a non-authorized individual carry a firearm on campus, and that Alexander was not authorized by the school district to have one.
Schools in CA get to tell LEO's whether they can carry or not? active shooter welcome zone? :banghead:
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Post by philip964 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:39 am

Liberty wrote:
philip964 wrote:http://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blo ... cbeb3.html

Teacher, reserve officer, teaching justice administration class, discharges his gun while teaching gun safety, wounding three students.

Did I mention it was in California in a school.
I only could see that a single person was slightly injured a male student was struck in the neck by "debris or fragmentation" from something overhead
Here is a three injured news story for you.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/13/ ... -in-class/

and another

http://www.ksbw.com/article/seaside-hig ... s/19426017

but USA Today says no one was hurt, but 17 were killed in a Florida High School shooting.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 422692002/


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Post by philip964 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:44 am

philip964 wrote:
Liberty wrote:
philip964 wrote:http://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blo ... cbeb3.html

Teacher, reserve officer, teaching justice administration class, discharges his gun while teaching gun safety, wounding three students.

Did I mention it was in California in a school.
I only could see that a single person was slightly injured a male student was struck in the neck by "debris or fragmentation" from something overhead
Here is a three injured news story for you.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/13/ ... -in-class/

and another

http://www.ksbw.com/article/seaside-hig ... s/19426017

but USA Today says no one was hurt, but 17 were killed in a Florida High School shooting.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 422692002/
They have a link to a crazy teacher in Georgia who fired a gun in the classroom naturally, as the point of all this is to keep schools gun free so we can have more mass shootings and ban all guns like England, Australia and Mexico, Venezuela, Jamaica.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/201 ... 381955002/


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Post by MechAg94 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:55 am

I am really curious what sort of demonstration the CA guy was trying to do that required pulling out a load gun. I would think any sort of demonstration would be done with a dummy gun. The number of safe directions to point a gun in the middle of a school are limited.

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Post by Middle Age Russ » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:25 am

There is a reason that NRA classes have a "no live ammo in the room" policy for non-live-fire instruction. Clearly this officer did not follow that protocol. A negligent discharge during a non-shooting safety instruction runs absolutely counter to and negates anything useful he was trying to teach. There are a number of ways to illustrate firearms functioning and handling that do not involve the risk of a negligent discharge in a classroom.
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Post by Paladin » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:30 am

Middle Age Russ wrote:There is a reason that NRA classes have a "no live ammo in the room" policy for non-live-fire instruction. Clearly this officer did not follow that protocol. A negligent discharge during a non-shooting safety instruction runs absolutely counter to and negates anything useful he was trying to teach. There are a number of ways to illustrate firearms functioning and handling that do not involve the risk of a negligent discharge in a classroom.
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Post by allisji » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:00 am

what is the likelihood that these incidents are facilitated by the gun control people in order to make the case for stricter gun laws?

It sounds outrageous, but lately with all of the government abuses of power in our nation being made public I've become more and more skeptical of all types of suspicious events that are used to push a political agenda
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Post by Middle Age Russ » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:24 am

I want to start this post by stating that I mean no offense to any LEO / ex-LEO or military / ex-military person when I say what follows. I hold most of these folks in the highest esteem. That said, this instance and others like it -- and the many instances I have seen at gun stores and gun shows of poor / unsafe gun handling by people I know to be in these groups -- lead me to the inevitable conclusion that being an LEO or in the military does not necessarily qualify you to personify, much less teach, gun handling and gun safety. I understand that we only hear of these folks in the context of teaching in a grade school environment for legal reasons, but I don't believe those legal reasons have a sound basis in facts or follow what I would consider to be "good" law in that they serve society well. For what it is worth, folks outside these groups are not typically either better or worse.

I have seen too many cases of people that I otherwise respect and admire who cannot seem to keep from muzzling others or having their fingers on the trigger when it shouldn't be -- and these people should simply not be involved in teaching gun handling and safety. If you are going to put yourself out there as a teacher, please ingrain the habits that help you personify the lessons so that what is learned by your students is what you meant to teach.
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Post by philip964 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:37 pm

Grundy1133 wrote:
philip964 wrote:
Did I mention it was in California in a school.
of course it was. that's where all the idiots live. :roll:
https://www.acps.k12.va.us/

And in Virginia.

ND at a middle school by the resource officer in his office.

Please people please.


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Post by o b juan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:02 pm

Does anyone remember the instructor at ( I think it was Dallas PD ) that shot and killed another officer and killed him in the classroom :banghead: ?

What happened yo the PD Instructor and the dept.
It was 10 or more years ago
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Post by WildRose » Sat May 05, 2018 2:30 am

MechAg94 wrote:I am really curious what sort of demonstration the CA guy was trying to do that required pulling out a load gun. I would think any sort of demonstration would be done with a dummy gun. The number of safe directions to point a gun in the middle of a school are limited.
Supposedly he was going to teach the kids how to disarm someone with a gun.

Anyone this stupid should not only lose his badge, his right to carry in public, and probably shouldn't be trusted with sharp objects. He sure as hell should not be entrusted with the lives or education of our children.
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