Incident with aggressor after facebook post.

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Incident with aggressor after facebook post.

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Post by big454 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:36 am

Ok, I just want to see what you guys and gals have to say about this incident that happened about 2 weeks ago. I know I kind of dropped the ball by not reporting it to the police but I think I was good in the way I actually handled the guy that was being the aggressor. I posted in a local facebook page about certain issues that involved people within our small community . These people had been arrested in a different town because they apparently had been burglarizing vehicles and were caught . I let our community know about this. Well, all of a sudden a guy started posting about me needing to be careful what I post because I could end up getting hurt. I took it lightly at first but then he stated that he was headed towards my home , he knew where I lived as this is a small town. I had some of my tools and equipment outside so I went outside . Still not believing he really is going to show up I stated to him how dumb he was to actually make threats on social media. Then I see this guy in a dark blue maybe black truck on the side street on a stop . He just let his truck idle there . He had his passenger window lowered and I asked him if he needed something. He did not answer but started making threats on that facebook page. I stated back to him , if you come unto my property I will do what I need to do to stop the threat. Eventually he drove off but kept on making threats. I started thinking , if he had actually gotten off the truck and come towards my property . I would have displayed my weapon in a defensive manner to warn him to keep back. He had stated already on social media that he had a "defender" with him. Then for sure I would have called 911 . But I kind of felt that because he drove off without getting off the situation kind of diffused itself . But I am thinking I should probably make a report anyway to be on the safe side. What say you about this incident?
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Post by crazy2medic » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:55 am

Definitely file a police report! Just in case there are any future incidents, this guy sounds unhinged!
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Re: Incident with aggressor after facebook post.

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Post by jar » Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:41 am

And his license number was ...?

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Post by E.Marquez » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:17 am

Make a report NOW.

The first to call is the complainant and victim, the second to call is the dude getting linked up
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Post by bblhd672 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:25 am

E.Marquez wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:17 am
Make a report NOW.

The first to call is the complainant and victim, the second to call is the dude getting linked up
And stop escalating by engaging him on Farcebook

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Post by C-dub » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:19 am

Each of the above recommendations are good. I also don't suppose you took any pictures of him sitting there in his truck as proof that he was there after making the threats and stating that he knew where you lived? Or actual video with audio of you speaking to him so he can't say that you said something you didn't?
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Post by Abraham » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:19 am

Abandon FB - It's not in your best interest to use it...


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Re: Incident with aggressor after facebook post.

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Post by philip964 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:02 pm

Facebook is for your public face.

Even commenting on a pro gun Facebook friends post ends up being sent to every anti gun friend you have.

Commenting on a pro Trump friends post gets sent to every anti Trump friend you have even though it’s not posted to your page.

Find a friendly forum where you can post what you really think.

Small towns have their advantages, but anonymity is not one.


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Re: Incident with aggressor after facebook post.

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Post by big454 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:25 pm

My wife was a witness to this , as she was outside as well. The Facebook page has the threats made by this fool. I haven't heard from him since that day. I have his Facebook info that I can pass to the officer taking the report. What surprised me was the willingness of this man to go to someone's home . That was really dumb and risky on his part.
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Re: Incident with aggressor after facebook post.

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Post by big454 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:15 pm

C-dub wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:19 am
Each of the above recommendations are good. I also don't suppose you took any pictures of him sitting there in his truck as proof that he was there after making the threats and stating that he knew where you lived? Or actual video with audio of you speaking to him so he can't say that you said something you didn't?
He posted these threats on that online page. So they are recorded , my wife was there as well. I have my home camera's pointing towards the front and back . This guy parked on the side street so the camera's didn't get him.
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Re: Incident with aggressor after facebook post.

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Post by big454 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:17 pm

bblhd672 wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:25 am
E.Marquez wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:17 am
Make a report NOW.

The first to call is the complainant and victim, the second to call is the dude getting linked up
And stop escalating by engaging him on Farcebook
I was not egging him on. The reason he was there was to try and intimidate me for posting the news article about the crime spree by these people. If I was trying to escalate this I would have contacted him directly on his account.
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Re: Incident with aggressor after facebook post.

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Post by carlson1 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:24 pm

Abraham wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:19 am
Abandon FB - It's not in your best interest to use it...
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Re: Incident with aggressor after facebook post.

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Post by Rob72 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:24 am

big454 wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:25 pm
My wife was a witness to this , as she was outside as well. The Facebook page has the threats made by this fool. I haven't heard from him since that day. I have his Facebook info that I can pass to the officer taking the report. What surprised me was the willingness of this man to go to someone's home . That was really dumb and risky on his part.
For me, the question is always, "are you and your family willing to go to war?", for whatever the point of contention may be. You can't be home all the time, I assume like most of us. Is your wife ready to light someone up, and are both of you able to effectively verbalize the nature of the threat and the reason(s) for escalation to deadly force?

News flash: most people that have been to prison aren't real intimidated by LE and have very limited consequential reasoning. Translation: if your wife is hot, if you have daughters, and/or or if you have personal property which has a high "resale," it could be more than reasonable for someone doing something, "really dumb and risky," to do it really hard and fast, and with help. If his willingness to show up surprised you, that's a clue he's much more invested in the interaction (for whatever reason) than you are. This isn't just "words".

I'm not saying don't stand up for yourself or your community, you just need to be sure you fully understand the risks, and also know that posts on FB NEVER look good in criminal or civil action.

Think of your life as an armed citizen as a series of rings. You know how to use your firearm, that's the bullseye. You have a basic understanding of how to operate your firearm withing the law, that's the 10 ring. You're now in an area where you have uncertainty- how your words and actions can unintentionally draw others into violent interaction with you. If you carry a firearm, the days of settling things like a good ol' boy with a bout of fisticuffs are long gone. Just be safe, my brother. :cheers2:

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Re: Incident with aggressor after facebook post.

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Post by Jusme » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:34 pm

I've read through the posts on this situation, and I didn't see where you contacted law enforcement. That should have been step one, after he showed up at your house.

If he made actual "threats" to you, that is actionable, especially, since he showed up at your house, that means he had the means and opportunity, to carry out those threats.

I had a similar, situation, when my daughter was in high school, where she and her best friend, who was living with us at the time, began receiving threats, via text message, form a boy she dated once. I came home from work during this time, and was filled in on the situation. The idiot, actually had the nerve to show up at the house and knock on my front door. I told my daughter to call 9-1-1, while I went out the back, and confronted him from behind with my 12 gauge. I ordered him to the ground, and held him there until the deputies arrived. He was arrested for Terrorist threat, and an outstanding warrant.

He told the deputies, that I had threatened to kill him, which was true, but they just laughed and told him, he was lucky that I didn't because I had every justification.

My point being, don't wait, for this idiot, to take action. Report him, and divulge all of the media posts he put up. If a visit from the local LEO, don't convince him that he is in the wrong, at least if he does escalate the situation, you will already, have a report on your side. JMHO
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