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ATF Whitepaper leak

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Post by TexasJohnBoy » Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:04 pm

:cheers2:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017 ... er-leaked/

Regarding braces...
This could change their determination that came out back in 2015 that using a brace could constitute a redesign. As Adam Kraut had explained, misusing a product is not the same as redesigning or manufacturing.

If that got you excited wait until you see what else they got cooking.
Silencers...
Given the lack of criminality associated with silencers, it is reasonable to conclude that they should not be viewed as a threat to public safety necessitating NFA classification, and should be considered for reclassification under the GCA.
I haven't read everything in it yet, but these two points sound mighty nice.
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Re: ATF Whitepaper leak

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Post by CleverNickname » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:04 pm

It's not an official ATF whitepaper, it's just the opinions of an ATF bureaucrat. If I had to guess, I'd guess that:

1) This is an unofficial way of the author trying to get his name in the news so that he'll get offered the job of ATF director.
2) This "leak" consisted of the author emailing the document to the Washington Post.

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Post by TexasJohnBoy » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:15 pm

Even if it's only an ATF bureaucrat, maybe at least an indication of winds of change...?

ETA: This is written by the second in command of the ATF - https://www.atf.gov/about/executive-staff
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Post by rotor » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:28 pm

Perhaps people trying to keep their jobs in a Trump administration.

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Post by CleverNickname » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:46 am

In another thread about this paper, a poster asked if that the idea with the HPA was to treat silencers like rifles, and recieved a reply in the affirmative. That thread is now closed, so I can't reply there, however I'd still like to point out that this is incorrect.

The HPA, as written, would remove silencers from being regulated by the NFA, so transfers would be cash and carry after filling out a 4473 and passing NICS, and would be legal for private sale to other state residents. However the HPA doesn't include silencers in the exemption which allows FFLs to sell rifles and shotguns to 18-20 year olds, nor does it include silencers in the exemption which allows FFLs to sell rifles and shotguns to residents of other states. A better statement would be that the HPA modifies the law to treat silencers like handguns.


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Post by locke_n_load » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:42 pm

If something like this did go into effect, we would need the texas law updated, as right now, you are legal to own a suppressor only if it has been registered with the ATF...
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Post by CleverNickname » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:18 pm

The HPA includes a provision which nullifies any state registration requirements, but doesn't nullify any outright state silencer bans (e.g. California).

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Re: ATF Whitepaper leak

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Post by Skiprr » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:31 pm

Folks, we currently have three different Topics discussing an identical subject: The recent ATF white paper and possible changes to certain NFA regulations. Unfortunately, the moderators didn't catch this duplication due largely to the fact that the Topics were started in different areas of the Forum.

We're going against typical practice here and not keeping the earliest Topic (although there is only one day separating the Topic start times), but rather the one that is in the most appropriate Forum area and that has the most replies.

Please visit this Topic to continue the discussion: "ATF White Paper discusses deregulating suppressors and arm braces" http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=87842.
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