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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:43 pm

I created a new thread for discussions of pending bills to avoid the Bill Status thread from becoming too long for it's intended purpose. I've also moved all discussion posts from the status thread to that thread.

Please post all discussion posts there.

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Post by Venus Pax » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:02 pm

Some of these appear to have doubles. The castle doctrine is one, and employer parking lots is one. Are there subtle differences we should know about?
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Post by jrosto » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:37 pm

HB 595 now has text, and it is....
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Post by nitrogen » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:29 pm

Has an act like this ever tried to pass this type of legislation before? How poorly was it received?
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Post by razoraggie » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:28 pm

I'm a little confused about HB2112. My wife is a teacher and, up to this point, it has been "legal" for her to leave her carry piece secured in her locked vehicle. So, this bill would force her to park off of the school parking lot? Seems strange that they would pass a bill making it illegal for an employer to ban firearms from employee's vehicles unless it is not a public parking lot. Aren't schools owned by the State, thus making them a public parking lot? Yet another example of some one thinking they have a good idea but not planning it out.


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Post by txinvestigator » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:33 am

razoraggie wrote:I'm a little confused about HB2112. My wife is a teacher and, up to this point, it has been "legal" for her to leave her carry piece secured in her locked vehicle. So, this bill would force her to park off of the school parking lot? Seems strange that they would pass a bill making it illegal for an employer to ban firearms from employee's vehicles unless it is not a public parking lot. Aren't schools owned by the State, thus making them a public parking lot? Yet another example of some one thinking they have a good idea but not planning it out.
It would not change the status of you wife's CHL status on school property.
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Post by jrosto » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:54 pm

txinvestigator wrote:
razoraggie wrote:I'm a little confused about HB2112. My wife is a teacher and, up to this point, it has been "legal" for her to leave her carry piece secured in her locked vehicle. So, this bill would force her to park off of the school parking lot? Seems strange that they would pass a bill making it illegal for an employer to ban firearms from employee's vehicles unless it is not a public parking lot. Aren't schools owned by the State, thus making them a public parking lot? Yet another example of some one thinking they have a good idea but not planning it out.
It would not change the status of you wife's CHL status on school property.
HB 2112 would make it illegal for a CHL holder (or anyone else) to have a firearm in a school parking lot.

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/petoc.html
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Post by Mithras61 » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:13 pm

jrosto wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:
razoraggie wrote:I'm a little confused about HB2112. My wife is a teacher and, up to this point, it has been "legal" for her to leave her carry piece secured in her locked vehicle. So, this bill would force her to park off of the school parking lot? Seems strange that they would pass a bill making it illegal for an employer to ban firearms from employee's vehicles unless it is not a public parking lot. Aren't schools owned by the State, thus making them a public parking lot? Yet another example of some one thinking they have a good idea but not planning it out.
It would not change the status of you wife's CHL status on school property.
HB 2112 would make it illegal for a CHL holder (or anyone else) to have a firearm in a school parking lot.

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/petoc.html
The actual change is
Sections 46.03(a) and (b), Penal Code, are amended to read as follows:

(a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):

(7) in or on any real property that is owned or leased by a public or private school or educational institution and routinely used by the faculty, staff, students, or visitors of the school or educational institution, including a parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.
It certainly appears that it would affect anyone who has a CHL in that it would prohibit all weapons from being on any real estate owned or controlled by a school or other educational institution.

On the other hand, it doesn't even have a co-sponsor or co-author yet. It appears to be languishing...

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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:53 pm

I've been swamped and I got a little behind updating the status of bills filed. All I had time to do was post updates on major actions on bills, so I updated the minor stuff as well today.

Sorry for letting it get a little outdated.

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Post by kauboy » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:44 am

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Post by jhutto » Tue May 08, 2007 10:29 am

Any news on any bills coming along that would allow unrestricted carry for CHL holders? I remember gvnr perry mentioning somthing to this effect? in light of the virginia tech shootings.

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Post by seamusTX » Tue May 08, 2007 10:32 am

It's too late in the session for new bills to be introduced. The next opportunity is most likely 2009.

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Post by O6nop » Tue May 08, 2007 1:07 pm

seamusTX wrote:It's too late in the session for new bills to be introduced. The next opportunity is most likely 2009.

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He'll still be Governor in 2009, it would be near impossible and politically suicidal for him to back out on this, even if he wanted to. It could build up to a strong following if we keep on it for the next 2 years.
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Post by stroo » Thu May 10, 2007 11:59 am

Charles,

As I read the updates, my impression is that nothing is going to be passed this session beyond the Castle Doctrine bill. Is that right?

On eliminating Gun Free Zones, the more I have thought about it, it probably is impossible to eliminate all gun free zones. However it seems to me that the only gun free zones we should even possibly have are ones where there are metal detectors and armed security. Plus the entity imposing the gun free zone ought to accept liability for any violence that takes place with in the zone. That undoubtedly is going to cause a lot of issues with business, but frankly if a business wants to take away my ability to protect myself, it ought to take on the responsibility. To do so, it needs metal detectors to keep all guns out, armed guards to end any violence quickly and liability if it fails to prevent violence.


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Post by GrillKing » Thu May 10, 2007 1:15 pm

So what has been signed into law this session so far?

Castle Doctrine
CHL Confidentiality
No confiscation during disasters

What am I missing?


What is still likely to pass?


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