I've heard different when from out local TABC agent. He said if someone is clearly impaired, such as stumbling, sluring speech, even if he blows a .06 he can be arrested. I've drank 2 beers on an empty stomach and felt like I drank a 12 pack.jbarn wrote:Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
And he needs probable cause. A much higher standard than reasonable suspicion.
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jbarn wrote:Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
And he needs probable cause. A much higher standard than reasonable suspicion.
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That's probable cause, not reasonable suspicion. Reasonable suspicion would be you smell alcohol, but do not see any signs of impairment.nightmare69 wrote:I've heard different when from out local TABC agent. He said if someone is clearly impaired, such as stumbling, sluring speech, even if he blows a .06 he can be arrested. I've drank 2 beers on an empty stomach and felt like I drank a 12 pack.jbarn wrote:Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
And he needs probable cause. A much higher standard than reasonable suspicion.
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I never wrote anything about a blood alcohol content. There are two definitions of intoxication, and only one is .08% BAC. A person is legally intoxicated if he meets either definition.nightmare69 wrote:I've heard different when from out local TABC agent. He said if someone is clearly impaired, such as stumbling, sluring speech, even if he blows a .06 he can be arrested. I've drank 2 beers on an empty stomach and felt like I drank a 12 pack.jbarn wrote:Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
And he needs probable cause. A much higher standard than reasonable suspicion.
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Oldgringo wrote:jbarn wrote:Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
And he needs probable cause. A much higher standard than reasonable suspicion.
That's intelligent. Care to actually post something?
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nightmare wrote:In theory yes but I think mi tocayo is right in practice. Some bullies will make their victims take a ride to jail because of their personal prejudices even when there's no crime. Sometimes they throw in a free taser ride.jbarn wrote:Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
Sure, if a cop decides he hates your haircut he will tase you and take you to jail.
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I gotcha. I have yet to go through SFST. I doubt I will ever have any trouble out of a CHL holder anyway. I'm out there to catch the real criminals.
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Don't forget getting sprayed with OC and getting beat with the Aspjbarn wrote:nightmare wrote:In theory yes but I think mi tocayo is right in practice. Some bullies will make their victims take a ride to jail because of their personal prejudices even when there's no crime. Sometimes they throw in a free taser ride.jbarn wrote:Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
Sure, if a cop decides he hates your haircut he will tase you and take you to jail.
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It has happened.nightmare69 wrote:Don't forget getting sprayed with OC and getting beat with the Aspjbarn wrote:nightmare wrote:In theory yes but I think mi tocayo is right in practice. Some bullies will make their victims take a ride to jail because of their personal prejudices even when there's no crime. Sometimes they throw in a free taser ride.jbarn wrote:Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
Sure, if a cop decides he hates your haircut he will tase you and take you to jail.
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I'm sure it has and will happen again. Just don't make the same mistake as the anti gunners and paint all LEOs with the same negative brush due to a few idiots.
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I haven't painted anyone with any broad brush. Some people think that is doesn't ever happen. I am just saying that it does happen.nightmare69 wrote:I'm sure it has and will happen again. Just don't make the same mistake as the anti gunners and paint all LEOs with the same negative brush due to a few idiots.
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I'm not saying you are I've just noticed many people having a negative attitude towards cops seems to be the norm now a days. No one like them till you need them.WildBill wrote:I haven't painted anyone with any brush.nightmare69 wrote:I'm sure it has and will happen again. Just don't make the same mistake as the anti gunners and paint all LEOs with the same negative brush due to a few idiots.
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There has always been negative attitudes towards cops. Perhaps it is "human nature" to remember negative experiences rather than the positive. Even though these situations aren't the norm they do happen. To deny they don't sometimes happen is ludicrous.nightmare69 wrote:I'm not saying you are I've just noticed many people having a negative attitude towards cops seems to be the norm now a days. No one like them till you need them.WildBill wrote:I haven't painted anyone with any brush.nightmare69 wrote:I'm sure it has and will happen again. Just don't make the same mistake as the anti gunners and paint all LEOs with the same negative brush due to a few idiots.
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I'm not denying they have, and will happen again. Those bad cops tend to get dealt with and arrested/fired quick. I've always had a positive outlook on life and been a generally happy person. I hope dealing with the scum of society and putting my life on the line for people that hate my guts don't affect me too much. Dear Lord give me strength. Other than that it's a great job and you get to do some really cool ninja stuff.WildBill wrote:There has always been negative attitudes towards cops. Even though these situations aren't the norm they do happen. To deny they don't sometimes happen is ludicrous.nightmare69 wrote:I'm not saying you are I've just noticed many people having a negative attitude towards cops seems to be the norm now a days. No one like them till you need them.WildBill wrote:I haven't painted anyone with any brush.nightmare69 wrote:I'm sure it has and will happen again. Just don't make the same mistake as the anti gunners and paint all LEOs with the same negative brush due to a few idiots.
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How's this?jbarn wrote:That's intelligent. Care to actually post something?Oldgringo wrote:jbarn wrote:Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
And he needs probable cause. A much higher standard than reasonable suspicion.
{snip}Postby jbarn » Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:05 pm
There is no BAC level required for DWI. As a cop, I got a conviction on a guy who blew zero.