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Concealed carry while employed by the State?

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Post by O.F.Fascist » Sat May 02, 2015 12:55 am

I'm thinking of taking a job with the State are there any legal issues regarding concealed carrying in the office that I should think about? As far as I know none of my work will take me to schools, hospitals, or courts?

Anyone think it would be a good idea to notify my new supervisor for some reason? I am personally leaning towards concealed is concealed and just keeping it to myself.

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Post by C-dub » Sat May 02, 2015 6:21 am

The odd part about this is that I think an employer can still prevent an employee from carrying at work. The odd thing about that is that they probably cannot prevent a non-employee from carrying in your workplace unless there's another reason it would be off limits. Also, remember, schools and courts don't have to be posted with a 30.06, but hospitals do if they want to prohibit CC.
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Post by RetNavy » Sat May 02, 2015 8:57 am

As there are many different agencies for the State, it will probably depend on thier policy, my wife works for the Health and Human Services and says their policy does not allow employees to carry at work or allow them to have it in their cars in the parking lot, which i told her about the parking lot law, but she still disagrees.. I carry in her building all the time since its a govt building and i'm not a state employee...
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Post by gward » Sat May 02, 2015 10:20 am

RetNavy wrote:As there are many different agencies for the State, it will probably depend on thier policy, my wife wcannotr the Health and Human Services and says their policy does not allow employees to carry at work or allow them to have it in their cars in the parking lot, which i told her about the parking lot law, but she still disagrees.. I carry in her building all the time since its a govt building and i'm not a state employee...
RetNavy, you are correct. It will depend on the agencies policy. Also you are correct about keeping it in her car in the parking lot. That used to be a big no no for State Agencies until the parking lot bill passed. :rules:

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I would suggest that you quietly look at their HR manual. This most likely will be on their Intranet site once you get computer access and sign in credentials. Some State Agencies have not changed their firearm policies, however I know one has! :tiphat:


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Post by SkipB » Sat May 02, 2015 10:35 am

I have two friends that worked for the DPS as inspector that were assigned to inspect places that issued vehicle inspection stickers. DPS would not allow them to carry while at work. I don't know if that policy was state wide or even exist now. My advice would be to inquire before trying to sneak it in.
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Post by ELB » Sat May 02, 2015 10:36 am

Some agencies might be better to work for than others...

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Post by ELB » Sat May 02, 2015 1:27 pm

Oh, and the General Land Office. When Patterson was Land Commissioner, he also had CHL classes after work and on weekends, and permitted employees with CHLs to carry.
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Post by srothstein » Sat May 02, 2015 10:57 pm

It definitely depends on the agency. The Comptroller of Public Accounts is so strict, even cops cannot carry at work if they are not commissioned by the Comptroller. At least they do recognize that the parking lot law is in existence and allow that.
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Post by airborned » Sun May 03, 2015 8:02 pm

I work for tpwd as a park ranger. They allow us to conceal carry. Im not sure if they will allow open carry but i hope and i will lobby for the department to allow us to continue to carry concealed.

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Post by CowboyPilot » Sat May 09, 2015 2:12 pm

Airborne,

Just out of curiosity Lake Brownwood SP has a "no firearms" sign. Pretty sure its not Corps land and its State government so my interpretation is that the sign=N/A. What kind of training/instruction do y'all get as rangers regarding weapons as far as CC with CHL or in vehicles/RVs wuthout a CHL.

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Post by ELB » Sat May 09, 2015 2:40 pm

srothstein wrote:It definitely depends on the agency. The Comptroller of Public Accounts is so strict, even cops cannot carry at work if they are not commissioned by the Comptroller.
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This is current? Glenn Hegar in other words?
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Post by srothstein » Sat May 09, 2015 7:23 pm

It was written under Susan Combs, but Glenn has not changed it yet.
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Post by airborned » Sun May 10, 2015 8:46 am

CowboyPilot wrote:Airborne,

Just out of curiosity Lake Brownwood SP has a "no firearms" sign. Pretty sure its not Corps land and its State government so my interpretation is that the sign=N/A. What kind of training/instruction do y'all get as rangers regarding weapons as far as CC with CHL or in vehicles/RVs wuthout a CHL.

No its not Corps land. you can carry away. the thing they do not want you doing is carrying a rifle or shotgun or open carrying. that is pretty much the rule in all state parks except when hunting and that's a whole different thing. as for training we really have none were fine with concealed carry and what is in your RV is none of our business. it is an extension of your home. There is a difference between Rangers and LEO we have both at our parks so Leo will handle any firearm enforcement for the most part.

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Post by CowboyPilot » Sun May 10, 2015 9:01 am

Murica. Good to hear. Lk BW is our default get away location with the kiddos. Funny how you can go 45 minutes out of Abilene and they have these things called "trees" and "hills"...

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Post by C-dub » Sun May 10, 2015 9:52 am

airborned wrote:
CowboyPilot wrote:Airborne,

Just out of curiosity Lake Brownwood SP has a "no firearms" sign. Pretty sure its not Corps land and its State government so my interpretation is that the sign=N/A. What kind of training/instruction do y'all get as rangers regarding weapons as far as CC with CHL or in vehicles/RVs wuthout a CHL.

No its not Corps land. you can carry away. the thing they do not want you doing is carrying a rifle or shotgun or open carrying. that is pretty much the rule in all state parks except when hunting and that's a whole different thing.
Interesting. I wouldn't do it, but since OC of long guns is legal, is this "rule" enforceable?
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