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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house

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Post by mojo84 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:02 am

The Kendall County courthouse has the metal detectors on the second floor, where the courtrooms are located, as you exit the elevator and stairs.

I think it says a lot when the top law enforcement official in the county openly advocates disregarding and breaking the law.
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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house

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Post by dhoobler » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:45 am

Anyone can register their opinion with the AG office. Here is the link:

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/contact-form/
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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house

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Post by Glockster » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:59 am

C-dub wrote:
Glockster wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing what happens on 1/1/16, when OC is a reality. All the complaints have been supposedly waiting for that date, so I anticipate that there certainly will be some major action taken by the AG on that date (or for sure after that day as it is a holiday). It will surely happen.
This has nothing to do with OC or 1.1.16. This law is already in effect.
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Ah huh. I was being sarcastic, but apparently that didn't come across.
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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house

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Post by puma guy » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:07 am

since they know it would be illegal wouldn't enforcing this open the Sheriff, Mayor and council to charges of official oppression.?
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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house

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Post by C-dub » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:08 am

Glockster wrote:
C-dub wrote:
Glockster wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing what happens on 1/1/16, when OC is a reality. All the complaints have been supposedly waiting for that date, so I anticipate that there certainly will be some major action taken by the AG on that date (or for sure after that day as it is a holiday). It will surely happen.
This has nothing to do with OC or 1.1.16. This law is already in effect.
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Ah huh. I was being sarcastic, but apparently that didn't come across.
Sorry, it did not.
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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house

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Post by EEllis » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:23 am

puma guy wrote:since they know it would be illegal wouldn't enforcing this open the Sheriff, Mayor and council to charges of official oppression.?
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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house

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Post by Glockster » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:06 pm

C-dub wrote:
Glockster wrote:
C-dub wrote:
Glockster wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing what happens on 1/1/16, when OC is a reality. All the complaints have been supposedly waiting for that date, so I anticipate that there certainly will be some major action taken by the AG on that date (or for sure after that day as it is a holiday). It will surely happen.
This has nothing to do with OC or 1.1.16. This law is already in effect.
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Ah huh. I was being sarcastic, but apparently that didn't come across.
Sorry, it did not.
I'll have to try harder. Sarcasm doesn't come naturally to me, so will work on it. :txflag:
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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house

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Post by ScottDLS » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:33 pm

mojo84 wrote:The Kendall County courthouse has the medal detectors on the second floor, where the courtrooms are located, as you exit the elevator and stairs.

I think it says a lot when the top law enforcement official in the county openly advocates disregarding and breaking the law.
Will they detect Purple Hearts and other medals? Are these illegal for carry... "rlol" "rlol" "rlol"
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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house

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Post by mojo84 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:45 pm

ScottDLS wrote:
mojo84 wrote:The Kendall County courthouse has the medal detectors on the second floor, where the courtrooms are located, as you exit the elevator and stairs.

I think it says a lot when the top law enforcement official in the county openly advocates disregarding and breaking the law.
Will they detect Purple Hearts and other medals? Are these illegal for carry... "rlol" "rlol" "rlol"

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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house

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Post by C-dub » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:20 pm

Glockster wrote:
C-dub wrote:
Glockster wrote:
C-dub wrote:
Glockster wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing what happens on 1/1/16, when OC is a reality. All the complaints have been supposedly waiting for that date, so I anticipate that there certainly will be some major action taken by the AG on that date (or for sure after that day as it is a holiday). It will surely happen.
This has nothing to do with OC or 1.1.16. This law is already in effect.
:iagree:
Ah huh. I was being sarcastic, but apparently that didn't come across.
Sorry, it did not.
I'll have to try harder. Sarcasm doesn't come naturally to me, so will work on it. :txflag:
I should have said, "Sorry, I didn't get it." Some of the smilies help with the sarcasm.
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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house

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Post by Pariah3j » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:39 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote:Abbott weighs in: http://www.whamprod.net/images/pdfs/201 ... 3-memo.pdf

That was well written and concise... It being layed out in plain english though - I don't think they will get it. "rlol"
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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house

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Post by Rex B » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:13 am

After reading this yesterday, I sent a note to Paxton's office:

Subject: : enforce SB273
government officials all over the state are trying to subvert the will of the legislature as the enacted SB273. Zoos are posting 30.06 signs and calling themselves " schools". Gun shows are posting their events in civic buildings. This needs to stop and some examples made. Please taken action against this illegal activity.


This morning I got this reply:

Mr. B, my name is Captain Gregory Lucas, I am the Law Enforcement Liaison for the Office of the Texas Attorney General (OAG), your e-mail was forwarded to me for review. The OAG has taken steps to address these complaints, we have set up a complaint form on the OAG website at the bottom of the page at https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/ and we also have set up a complaint hotline at 844-584-3006 or 512-936-3006. There have been several official requests for OAG Opinions regarding the new laws, particularly the handgun laws, those Opinions have not yet been rendered. We are compiling all of the complaints that have come in, but are not going to take any action until those Opinions have been issued as they will affect the validity of many of the complaints. I assure you that all valid complaints will be addressed. If you would like to see the pending request list, the link to the OAG website is https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/op ... recent.php. The most notable request is RQ-0040-KP which specifically addresses government buildings. Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Captain Gregory Lucas
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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house

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Post by locke_n_load » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:51 am

Rex B wrote:After reading this yesterday, I sent a note to Paxton's office:

Subject: : enforce SB273
government officials all over the state are trying to subvert the will of the legislature as the enacted SB273. Zoos are posting 30.06 signs and calling themselves " schools". Gun shows are posting their events in civic buildings. This needs to stop and some examples made. Please taken action against this illegal activity.


This morning I got this reply:

Mr. B, my name is Captain Gregory Lucas, I am the Law Enforcement Liaison for the Office of the Texas Attorney General (OAG), your e-mail was forwarded to me for review. The OAG has taken steps to address these complaints, we have set up a complaint form on the OAG website at the bottom of the page at https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/ and we also have set up a complaint hotline at 844-584-3006 or 512-936-3006. There have been several official requests for OAG Opinions regarding the new laws, particularly the handgun laws, those Opinions have not yet been rendered. We are compiling all of the complaints that have come in, but are not going to take any action until those Opinions have been issued as they will affect the validity of many of the complaints. I assure you that all valid complaints will be addressed. If you would like to see the pending request list, the link to the OAG website is https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/op ... recent.php. The most notable request is RQ-0040-KP which specifically addresses government buildings. Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Captain Gregory Lucas
Law Enforcement Liaison
Office of the Attorney General
Criminal Investigation Division
Office 512-936-1335
Cell 512-652-8426
Fax 512-370-9948
Thanks for sharing. The list of requests is interesting. Wish we could see all the pending requests for SB273 violations...
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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house

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Post by dhoobler » Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:08 pm

East Texas lawmaker: A gun free courthouse may not align with state law

http://www.kltv.com/story/30654037/e-te ... -state-law
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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house

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Post by Rex B » Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:18 pm

dhoobler wrote:East Texas lawmaker: A gun free courthouse may not align with state law

http://www.kltv.com/story/30654037/e-te ... -state-law
I note that the shooting example he gives took place outside the courthouse, so would not have been affected by the new law. Unless he plays fast and loose with the definition of "premises".

But Ken Paxton settled that question in October. Sheriff Smith just needs to follow the law per his sworn oath.
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