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Texas police say they'll take new open carry law in stride

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Post by AndyC » Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:10 pm

But Michael, who is readying Acevedo's force for the new law, said he doesn't expect many officers to ask for licenses. The department is even training its dispatchers to educate the public on the law change, anticipating a barrage of 911 calls about someone openly carrying a gun.

"The call-taker will say it's now legal to do that," said Michael, who said his department has been discussing preparations for open carry for months with police departments across Central Texas.

Police "don't want to not act and then have something devolve into a mass shooting incident, but harassing every person with a holster gun isn't going to solve that," said Shannon Edmonds, director of governmental relations for the Texas District and County Attorneys Association.
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Post by mojo84 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:32 pm

Funny how Acevedo was all doom and gloom trying to kill the bill, now it's something they will take in stride. Pretty incredible how some can switch from lying, innuendos and hyperbole to just taking something in stride.
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Post by AJSully421 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:13 pm

Liberalism 101. They lie.
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Post by puma guy » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:29 am

I was at my credit union this morning and asked the LEO working security if he had any concerns about OC. His thoughts were that OC would invite criminals to target them first, but it's the law. Then he said something that was just zany, at least to me. He was worried that OC would lead to more road rage. I offered respectfully that CHL's (now LTC) were very law abiding less likely to commit a crime than even an LEO.

He said neither OC or CC would be allowed in the CU since it's illegal to carry a gun into a bank and pointed to the no firearms allowed sign. When I said I said they'll have to put up both a 30.06 and 30.07 signs to prevent it he replied they really don't need any sign because it's prohibited by federal law to carry a gun into a bank. :banghead: I asked if he knew the statute, which he didn't of course. He also said you can't take a firearm into any place that sells liquor either. :headscratch At that point the girl finally had my card re-PIN'd so I bid him a "Stay Safe" and a Happy New Year!
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Post by mommagamber » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:54 am

I have found that cops really don't know the law. :banghead:
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Post by Glockster » Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:01 am

mojo84 wrote:Funny how Acevedo was all doom and gloom trying to kill the bill, now it's something they will take in stride. Pretty incredible how some can switch from lying, innuendos and hyperbole to just taking something in stride.
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Post by tiger1279 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:12 am

puma guy wrote:
He said neither OC or CC would be allowed in the CU since it's illegal to carry a gun into a bank and pointed to the no firearms allowed sign. When I said I said they'll have to put up both a 30.06 and 30.07 signs to prevent it he replied they really don't need any sign because it's prohibited by federal law to carry a gun into a bank. :banghead: I asked if he knew the statute, which he didn't of course. He also said you can't take a firearm into any place that sells liquor either. :headscratch At that point the girl finally had my card re-PIN'd so I bid him a "Stay Safe" and a Happy New Year!
I found the same thing when I was talking to the branch manager of my local bank. He also thought it was a federal law that you couldn't carry a gun into a bank. When I informed him that there was no such law and, unless posted with the proper signs, anyone with a license could walk into the bank with their weapon. He was shocked at this. I suspect that once banks start to come to grips with the new OC law they are going to start putting up the proper signs required. OC may well turn out to be counter productive for license holders.


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Post by Abraham » Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:01 am

puma guy,

Was he a Rent-A-Cop or an LEO?


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Post by gljjt » Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:37 pm

tiger1279 wrote:
puma guy wrote:
He said neither OC or CC would be allowed in the CU since it's illegal to carry a gun into a bank and pointed to the no firearms allowed sign. When I said I said they'll have to put up both a 30.06 and 30.07 signs to prevent it he replied they really don't need any sign because it's prohibited by federal law to carry a gun into a bank. :banghead: I asked if he knew the statute, which he didn't of course. He also said you can't take a firearm into any place that sells liquor either. :headscratch At that point the girl finally had my card re-PIN'd so I bid him a "Stay Safe" and a Happy New Year!
I found the same thing when I was talking to the branch manager of my local bank. He also thought it was a federal law that you couldn't carry a gun into a bank. When I informed him that there was no such law and, unless posted with the proper signs, anyone with a license could walk into the bank with their weapon. He was shocked at this. I suspect that once banks start to come to grips with the new OC law they are going to start putting up the proper signs required. OC may well turn out to be counter productive for license holders.
And why are we telling them how to give effective notice?

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Post by puma guy » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:18 pm

gljjt wrote:
tiger1279 wrote:
puma guy wrote:
He said neither OC or CC would be allowed in the CU since it's illegal to carry a gun into a bank and pointed to the no firearms allowed sign. When I said I said they'll have to put up both a 30.06 and 30.07 signs to prevent it he replied they really don't need any sign because it's prohibited by federal law to carry a gun into a bank. :banghead: I asked if he knew the statute, which he didn't of course. He also said you can't take a firearm into any place that sells liquor either. :headscratch At that point the girl finally had my card re-PIN'd so I bid him a "Stay Safe" and a Happy New Year!
I found the same thing when I was talking to the branch manager of my local bank. He also thought it was a federal law that you couldn't carry a gun into a bank. When I informed him that there was no such law and, unless posted with the proper signs, anyone with a license could walk into the bank with their weapon. He was shocked at this. I suspect that once banks start to come to grips with the new OC law they are going to start putting up the proper signs required. OC may well turn out to be counter productive for license holders.


And why are we telling them how to give effective notice?
I don't think the guy (LEO) I spoke with will give the CU any advice since he's convinced federal law prevents it anyway. I di:tiphat:
I do agree with tiger1279 that OC could turn out to be counter productive. Only time will tell. BTW the LEO opined on several other aspects of CC and OC that I didn't deem worth mentioning.
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Post by tiger1279 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:01 pm

And why are we telling them how to give effective notice?

puma guy, I should have explained that my post was of a personal nature. I have been doing business with this bank for over 20yrs and the manager is a personal friend. Knowing he did not want guns in the bank, it seemed prudent to inform him of what the law required him to do. I have no doubt he would have discovered this on his own anyway. I certainly don't go around telling merchants how to keep license holders out of their stores. Sorry, if you got that impression. This was just a personal conversation between me and a friend.


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Post by rentz » Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:17 pm

puma guy wrote:I was at my credit union this morning and asked the LEO working security if he had any concerns about OC. His thoughts were that OC would invite criminals to target them first, but it's the law. Then he said something that was just zany, at least to me. He was worried that OC would lead to more road rage. I offered respectfully that CHL's (now LTC) were very law abiding less likely to commit a crime than even an LEO.

He said neither OC or CC would be allowed in the CU since it's illegal to carry a gun into a bank and pointed to the no firearms allowed sign. When I said I said they'll have to put up both a 30.06 and 30.07 signs to prevent it he replied they really don't need any sign because it's prohibited by federal law to carry a gun into a bank. :banghead: I asked if he knew the statute, which he didn't of course. He also said you can't take a firearm into any place that sells liquor either. :headscratch At that point the girl finally had my card re-PIN'd so I bid him a "Stay Safe" and a Happy New Year!
An officer swore up and down to me that liquor store rule too, I assured him that wasn't the case and was told he can't even carry in there when off duty.... I just played along and said oh wow ok didn't know and went about my business

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Post by The Annoyed Man » Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:37 pm

rentz wrote:
puma guy wrote:I was at my credit union this morning and asked the LEO working security if he had any concerns about OC. His thoughts were that OC would invite criminals to target them first, but it's the law. Then he said something that was just zany, at least to me. He was worried that OC would lead to more road rage. I offered respectfully that CHL's (now LTC) were very law abiding less likely to commit a crime than even an LEO.

He said neither OC or CC would be allowed in the CU since it's illegal to carry a gun into a bank and pointed to the no firearms allowed sign. When I said I said they'll have to put up both a 30.06 and 30.07 signs to prevent it he replied they really don't need any sign because it's prohibited by federal law to carry a gun into a bank. :banghead: I asked if he knew the statute, which he didn't of course. He also said you can't take a firearm into any place that sells liquor either. :headscratch At that point the girl finally had my card re-PIN'd so I bid him a "Stay Safe" and a Happy New Year!
An officer swore up and down to me that liquor store rule too, I assured him that wasn't the case and was told he can't even carry in there when off duty.... I just played along and said oh wow ok didn't know and went about my business
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Post by puma guy » Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:27 pm

tiger1279 wrote:And why are we telling them how to give effective notice?

puma guy, I should have explained that my post was of a personal nature. I have been doing business with this bank for over 20yrs and the manager is a personal friend. Knowing he did not want guns in the bank, it seemed prudent to inform him of what the law required him to do. I have no doubt he would have discovered this on his own anyway. I certainly don't go around telling merchants how to keep license holders out of their stores. Sorry, if you got that impression. This was just a personal conversation between me and a friend.
No problem except I didn't ask. It was gljjt 's question
gljjt wrote: And why are we telling them how to give effective notice?
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Post by puma guy » Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:33 pm

Abraham wrote:puma guy,

Was he a Rent-A-Cop or an LEO?
LEO - He was retired from Houston Police Department and is now with a different department. He knew several HPD officers that I hung with in the old days.
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