Should I conceal carry a .22 pistol?

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Should I conceal carry a .22 pistol?

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Post by Pixie123 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:15 pm

I know it’s not the best choice, but does anyone carry a .22? The reason I ask is because I am not very accurate at shooting larger caliber pistols, even with a lot of practice. The recoil makes me miss my target a lot. However, with the .22 I can consistently shoot very accurately. Head shots and heart shots are very easy. I am able to hit vital areas cleanly and consistently with a .22.

I want something small that I can shoot accurately and conceal.

Is this a bad idea?

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Post by Lynyrd » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:25 pm

You are probably going to get some negative feedback on carrying a .22. My wife has trouble with large caliber pistols, so I understand your dilemma. I had rather you have a .22 than nothing at all, but a bigger caliber would be much more likely to take down a BG if the situation ever arises. With a .22 you may only cause minor damage and not stop a potential assailant in time to avoid them doing you harm.

That being said, have you tried a .380? And have you tried larger frame guns? The heavier the gun, the smaller the recoil.
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Post by bblhd672 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:38 pm

Pixie123 wrote:I know it’s not the best choice, but does anyone carry a .22? The reason I ask is because I am not very accurate at shooting larger caliber pistols, even with a lot of practice. The recoil makes me miss my target a lot. However, with the .22 I can consistently shoot very accurately. Head shots and heart shots are very easy. I am able to hit vital areas cleanly and consistently with a .22.

I want something small that I can shoot accurately and conceal.

Is this a bad idea?
How many rounds have you put through your new LC2? Have you had any formal training shooting it? What distance are you practicing from?
If the LC2 is too snappy for you, try to find someone or a range that has a S&W Shield .380 EZ. I haven't shot one, but it is supposed to be easier to handle/operate and larger than a typical .380.
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Re: Should I conceal carry a .22 pistol?

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Post by Maxwell » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:44 pm

I would agree with Lynyrd, anything beats nothing. That said a mid size .380 might be something to try, not one of the little pocket pistols but maybe the Ruger LC380 or the Walther PK380. maybe even a .38 Special revolver (NOT "airweight). I think the other thing to make sure of is that you are using heavier grains, standard pressure rounds instead of the high velocity +P type ammo. All combined might make your experience with a larger than .22 pistol much better.

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Re: Should I conceal carry a .22 pistol?

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Post by strogg » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:54 pm

You may also consider a .22 mag. Recoil is still light, but it has more of an impact. Also, don't forget .25 or .32 caliber pistols if you can find them (and the ammo). .22 LR/mag will be a lot more plentiful, though.

If size isn't a factor in concealment, you may want to think about getting a handgun with a 5" barrel. Less recoil impulse.

Anything is better than nothing. But keep this in mind. Lets say the bg is high on PCP. Unless you're lucky with a very well placed shot, the bg is not gonna even blink when shot with a .22 LR.


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Post by rotor » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:58 pm

I think the major problem with .22LR aside from the lack of energy is that the round is not that reliable, depending on brand. Anything centerfire is better than a rimfire. We shoot a fair amount of .22LR and throw away an awful lot of well primer struck ammo. I just bought a Kel-Tec p32, haven't fired it yet but it is supposed to be a mild recoil. The laws of physics though are fixed and there are no really light firearms that shoot a "high" powered round without recoil. If .22LR is the best you can handle then go with that knowing the imperfections in the round.


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Re: Should I conceal carry a .22 pistol?

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Post by cmgee67 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:07 pm

I would advise against carrying any rimfire due to the reliably issues that are known among them. If you are going to carry a rimfire and absolutely insist on one, may I recommend a double action single action revolver. You will always have second strike capability if it doesn’t go off the first time. Nowadays you can get 22 LR revolvers that hold up to 10 shots. I wouldn’t carry anything less than 9mm but I also know that a 22lr can be a nasty little booger and can do some serious damage when it bounces around inside soft tissue. I wouldn’t want to get shot with an airsoft gun let alone a 22. Also pulling out a revolver of any kind has more of an intimidation factor by looks than a semi auto does.

If weight and size are not an issue to you, you can always get a steel framed 1911 in 9mm, and then the recoil will be almost ruled out of the equation.
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Re: Should I conceal carry a .22 pistol?

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Post by stroo » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:18 pm

Accuracy is far more important than caliber. A hit with a 22 is more effective than a miss with a 45.

As far as reliability, 22 rimfire is less reliable than centerfire ammo. Having said that, I shoot a lot of 22 and have found its reliability depends a lot on the quality of the ammo and the gun. I have almost no issues with my Browning Buckmark or my S&W M&P 22s. Particularly when I use high quality ammo. I would have no trouble carrying either one with 22s.

If you have been shooting small guns, you might try guns with full grips. I have found that a full grip even on a small gun makes a lot of difference with recoil.

The S&W M&P 22 BTW is a very light relatively small gun. When I was have wrist problems, I seriously thought about carrying that gun.

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Post by anygunanywhere » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:24 pm

stroo wrote:Accuracy is far more important than caliber. A hit with a 22 is more effective than a miss with a 45.

As far as reliability, 22 rimfire is less reliable than centerfire ammo. Having said that, I shoot a lot of 22 and have found its reliability depends a lot on the quality of the ammo and the gun. I have almost no issues with my Browning Buckmark or my S&W M&P 22s. Particularly when I use high quality ammo. I would have no trouble carrying either one with 22s.

If you have been shooting small guns, you might try guns with full grips. I have found that a full grip even on a small gun makes a lot of difference with recoil.

The S&W M&P 22 BTW is a very light relatively small gun. When I was have wrist problems, I seriously thought about carrying that gun.
What do you mean. Don't you know that the muzzle blast from a .45 ACP will destroy any assailant within 10 yards of the muzzle of a 1911? A miss is indeed better than a .22!

Sorry. I'll go back to the shadows.

All kidding aside, a .22 is better than nothing, and so far I have never met anyone that would let me shoot them with a .22 when they ran their mouth about how weak it was. Good advice here.

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Re: Should I conceal carry a .22 pistol?

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Post by carlson1 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:28 pm

Back in another life I carried a NAA 22 magnum in my boot. I never took it out when I was on duty. It may not have been much, but even in the book in I wa s never unarmed.

I would not suggest that now nor suggest the NAA 22 magnum especially if recoil is a problem.
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Re: Should I conceal carry a .22 pistol?

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Post by Oldgringo » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:30 pm

Everybody who knows anybody who wants to get shot with a .22 Long Rifle Hollow Point, please raise your hand. "rlol"
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Post by anygunanywhere » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:34 pm

Oldgringo wrote:Everybody who knows anybody who wants to get shot with a .22 Long Rifle Hollow Point raise your hand. "rlol"
Some of them Tide pod eaters might take you up on it.
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Post by carlson1 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:51 pm

anygunanywhere wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:Everybody who knows anybody who wants to get shot with a .22 Long Rifle Hollow Point raise your hand. "rlol"
Some of them Tide pod eaters might take you up on it.
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Re: Should I conceal carry a .22 pistol?

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Post by troglodyte » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:05 pm

Pixie123 wrote:I know it’s not the best choice, but does anyone carry a .22? The reason I ask is because I am not very accurate at shooting larger caliber pistols, even with a lot of practice. The recoil makes me miss my target a lot. However, with the .22 I can consistently shoot very accurately. Head shots and heart shots are very easy. I am able to hit vital areas cleanly and consistently with a .22.

I want something small that I can shoot accurately and conceal.

Is this a bad idea?
It's not a bad idea but it may not be the best idea.

As has already be said, a 22 is better than nothing.

You state that you can hit the vitals easily. Are these moving targets that are intending to do you harm? Are you moving at the same time? I'm not trying to discount your abilities, far from it, but standing on a range shooting static targets is a far cry from what you are likely to experience in the real world. Now if you can consistently hit a running jackrabbit in the eye at 50 paces with your 22 then I think you have the perfect gun and I envy you.

A larger caliber still requires you to hit your target but it also allows for a little more energy and penetration.

I am not volunteering to get shot with a 22. I don't think any sane person would do that and many sane people would not attack a drawn 22. What I am more concerned with is the crack heads that aren't sane. They may need a little more persuasion to alter their behavior.

It is most important for you to carry and carry what you can shoot. I'd say carry the 22 and work on trying to up the caliber scale at least a little.
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Re: Should I conceal carry a .22 pistol?

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Post by treadlightly » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:06 pm

Once in a blue moon I carry my NAA .22 magnum. If I have to wear a suit where people who may not like guns are hugging everyone in sight - weddings and funerals come to mind - I'll carry the little revolver. It's near useless at any range, but it's better than nothing. Mostly.

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