Is LTC considered "Weapons training"

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Re: Is LTC considered "Weapons training"

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Post by ghostrider » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:52 pm

BATF's official response stated that it stays because it's a federal rule, and it has to be asked in two parts.
Its govt policy, it doesn't have to make sense :-)


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Re: Is LTC considered "Weapons training"

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Post by Killadocg23 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:05 pm

Scott B. wrote:
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Scott B. wrote:I'll postulate that it has something to do with ITAR. The weapons technical information, training, etc., are all in there.

As firearms instructors (NRA or our own stuff) we have to be wary of ITAR issues.

Agree, not for LTC as drawn up by the state.
So no, wouldn't be weapons training?

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No, not weapons training. It's to check a box off in a licensing scheme. We do test if you're proficient in the usage of a firearm, but we're not training how to you use it. Could be a gray area, but RSD's answer should suffice.
Pardon my silly ness but what is RSD?

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Post by AndyC » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:38 pm

Killadocg23 wrote:It is for Form I485 "Adjustment of status". I am a student here in Texas and me and my fiancee are getting married. One of the questions on the from was "Have you ever received any military,para military or weapons training"? , so I was wondering would having a LTC count as "weapons training". I called USCIS and a lady didnt give me a definitive answer as to if it was. I called DPS CHL center and the gentleman told me that it wouldn't be weapons training. Just was curious as to what you guys thought
I had to answer "Yes" to that question due to my background and it didn't hinder my Green Card approval - but an LTC isn't weapons-training at all, to my mind.
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Re: Is LTC considered "Weapons training"

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Post by Killadocg23 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:37 pm

AndyC wrote:
Killadocg23 wrote:It is for Form I485 "Adjustment of status". I am a student here in Texas and me and my fiancee are getting married. One of the questions on the from was "Have you ever received any military,para military or weapons training"? , so I was wondering would having a LTC count as "weapons training". I called USCIS and a lady didnt give me a definitive answer as to if it was. I called DPS CHL center and the gentleman told me that it wouldn't be weapons training. Just was curious as to what you guys thought
I had to answer "Yes" to that question due to my background and it didn't hinder my Green Card approval - but an LTC isn't weapons-training at all, to my mind.
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Re: Is LTC considered "Weapons training"

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Post by Scott B. » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:49 pm

Killadocg23 wrote:Pardon my silly ness but what is RSD?
Not a silly question. We tend to use too many acronyms around here. RSD - regulatory services division of DPS. They administer the LTC program.
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Re: Is LTC considered "Weapons training"

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Post by Liberty » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:46 am

and I thought it was super secret instructor code that the rest of us weren't supposed to know. Wasn't that long ago they were refered to as DPS, once us commoners figured that out the Instructors started using that RSD as a code word.

Now that the cat is out of the bag, what new code is next. :biggrinjester:
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Re: Is LTC considered "Weapons training"

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Post by allisji » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:34 am

The Annoyed Man wrote:
Killadocg23 wrote:
Abraham wrote:Killadocg23 ,

Do you mind stating the name of or what form asked such a question?

I ask out of simple curiosity.

Thanks!
No problem.

It is for Form I485 "Adjustment of status". I am a student here in Texas and me and my fiancee are getting married. One of the questions on the from was "Have you ever received any military,para military or weapons training"? , so I was wondering would having a LTC count as "weapons training". I called USCIS and a lady didnt give me a definitive answer as to if it was. I called DPS CHL center and the gentleman told me that it wouldn't be weapons training. Just was curious as to what you guys thought.

Thanks
Purely out of curiosity, I googled “Form I485 “Adjustment of status””, and I’m assuming you’re talking about this: https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/adjustment-of-status? Not that it matters I suppose, but why on earth would the gov’t want to know if you’d had any formal weapons training, as part of an immigration process? They strike me as unrelated matters.
They are hoping that potential terrorists will confirm that they had received weapons training from Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. You know... so that they can monitor them after they grant their legal status.
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Re: Is LTC considered "Weapons training"

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Post by The Annoyed Man » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:57 am

allisji wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Killadocg23 wrote:
Abraham wrote:Killadocg23 ,

Do you mind stating the name of or what form asked such a question?

I ask out of simple curiosity.

Thanks!
No problem.

It is for Form I485 "Adjustment of status". I am a student here in Texas and me and my fiancee are getting married. One of the questions on the from was "Have you ever received any military,para military or weapons training"? , so I was wondering would having a LTC count as "weapons training". I called USCIS and a lady didnt give me a definitive answer as to if it was. I called DPS CHL center and the gentleman told me that it wouldn't be weapons training. Just was curious as to what you guys thought.

Thanks
Purely out of curiosity, I googled “Form I485 “Adjustment of status””, and I’m assuming you’re talking about this: https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/adjustment-of-status? Not that it matters I suppose, but why on earth would the gov’t want to know if you’d had any formal weapons training, as part of an immigration process? They strike me as unrelated matters.
They are hoping that potential terrorists will confirm that they had received weapons training from Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. You know... so that they can monitor them after they grant their legal status.
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Re: Is LTC considered "Weapons training"

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Post by Killadocg23 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:06 pm

Scott B. wrote:
Killadocg23 wrote:
Scott B. wrote:I'll postulate that it has something to do with ITAR. The weapons technical information, training, etc., are all in there.

As firearms instructors (NRA or our own stuff) we have to be wary of ITAR issues.

Agree, not for LTC as drawn up by the state.
So no, wouldn't be weapons training?

Thanks
No, not weapons training. It's to check a box off in a licensing scheme. We do test if you're proficient in the usage of a firearm, but we're not training how to you use it. Could be a gray area, but RSD's answer should suffice.
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