Nervous LTC test

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Re: Nervous LTC test

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Post by bblhd672 » Fri May 17, 2019 7:05 am

You should be fine based upon your target. Definitely you should get in one more range visit and shoot the B27 target at 3 and 7 yards.

Like many others here I had very inexperienced people in my class. A lady in her 70’s who owned a revolver but hardly ever shot it, and a young lady in mid-20’s who had never even handled a gun much less shot one. Both passed.
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Re: Nervous LTC test

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Post by GeekwithaGun » Fri May 17, 2019 9:41 am

You may also be anticipating the shot and dropping / dipping, ever so slightly, the barrel to compensate. i had this issue and it takes a little time to overcome, a slight change in my grip really helped.
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Re: Nervous LTC test

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Post by The Annoyed Man » Fri May 17, 2019 9:48 am

gabeZherrera wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 6:44 pm
Liberty wrote:
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What kind of gun are you shooting? a long stiff pull on a trigger can make it hard to keep the sights on target. Lots of new shooters these days are buying LC9s or LCP styled guns and they can be tough to master.
I’m shooting a Sig P320 compact, again i have small frame hands so I am thinking it is my trigger press
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Re: Nervous LTC test

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Post by montgomery » Fri May 17, 2019 10:04 am

Grip is your primary problem. PM me your general location for help.

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Re: Nervous LTC test

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Post by AndyC » Fri May 17, 2019 11:24 am

You'll pass with that shooting; nothing to be concerned about.

With that said, decades of experience tells me that you're jerking the trigger and flinching downwards just before the shot goes off. The downward flinch is because you know the gun is about to fire - and you're unconsciously forcing the muzzle down a little to counter the upward recoil that you know is coming, hence all the low shots. You'll see this flinch for yourself if you have a misfire or someone hands you an empty gun.

If you want to shoot accurately, your job is to do 2 things at the same time:
a. Press the trigger slowly enough that you don't exactly know when it will go off (this takes a significant amount of self-discipline) - this is called the "surprise break" (and it's not a race, so take your time).
b. Watch your sights like a hawk - this is 95% of your task. Remember, the pistol WILL fire eventually - so look at your sight-alignment and keep them aligned properly on a very specific spot on the target until the pistol fires almost by itself.

The pistol does recoil - it won't hurt you, so ignore it and let it happen.

Once you can do the above fairly regularly ie. decent grouping at 5 yards, you can move into shooting a bit faster - the "compressed break". It's exactly the same as before except that you are pulling the trigger faster with deliberation, so again watch your sight-alignment but take only a single second to pull the trigger smoothly from front to back. You'll need to be able to do this if you want to pass the test with a great score - not necessary but very satisfying to score 250/250.
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Re: Nervous LTC test

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Post by Scott B. » Fri May 17, 2019 5:40 pm

gabeZherrera wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 6:44 pm
Liberty wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 6:12 pm
What kind of gun are you shooting? a long stiff pull on a trigger can make it hard to keep the sights on target. Lots of new shooters these days are buying LC9s or LCP styled guns and they can be tough to master.
I’m shooting a Sig P320 compact, again i have small frame hands so I am thinking it is my trigger press
Do you have the stock grip on this compact? (look for a "M" right above the lanyard hole). That's a Medium grip by default. The Small grip module may be what you need. If you're in the Houston area, hit me up. I've got a stack of those sitting around.

If not in the Houston area, this is the part number: GRIP-MOD-C-943-SM-BLK price will average $38 depending on where you shop.

Overall, don't worry about the shooting test. That's the fun part. You could pass it with your eyes closed. I don't suggest that, but you really could.

The circle diagnostic graphic isn't terrible but I don't find it particularly useful for students.

Relaxed but stable posture. Think an athleltic stance. Weight distributed, weight slightly forward, not tense.

Firm, but relaxed grip.

Good sight alignment and sight picture.

Smooth trigger pull. Address the trigger, take up the slack, break the shot when you want to.

Rinse and repeat until you're happy.

If your LTC instructor is any good, he or she will help you out.
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Re: Nervous LTC test

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Post by MaduroBU » Fri May 17, 2019 6:00 pm

When dry firing, where are the sights pointed after you pull the trigger? You might benefit a lot from shooting a .22 pistol, in that fear of the gun going off will cause you to flinch. A .22 has so little recoil that you watch yourself miss for no reason and then decide not to flinch (which is easy because the muzzle blast is gone. Finally, double up on hearing protection (plugs and muffs) when shooting, as the noise contributes a ton to flinch.

There is no shame in flinching; I catch myself doing it from time to time and must be diligent in getting rid of it. Flinching doesn't imply that you're a sissy or that you don't know what you're doing; it is a natural human reaction to an explosion a few feet from your face that you must continually condition your lizard brain to ignore.


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Re: Nervous LTC test

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Post by ammoboy2 » Fri May 17, 2019 6:45 pm

If I do this correctly is a link to completing the test with eyes closed. He also included a draw which is not part of the test.

https://lockedback.com/passing-the-texa ... t-with-my-…/


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Re: Nervous LTC test

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Post by Bruin98 » Fri May 17, 2019 7:17 pm

Relax. Test is easy. I took my wife to the range twice before her test and she passed.

Her test was her 4th time shooting a gun ever. She shot my gun once. Then about 6 months later hers twice. And then tested.


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Re: Nervous LTC test

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Post by gabeZherrera » Sun May 19, 2019 2:38 pm

Good news, passed with 232/250. Thank you everyone for the tips and I will continue to train. Also i have submitted application and fingerprints the week before. I am submitting the form the same day. Anyone know how long recently it has been taking to get your LTC in hand?

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Post by joe817 » Sun May 19, 2019 3:02 pm

gabeZherrera wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 2:38 pm
Good news, passed with 232/250. Thank you everyone for the tips and I will continue to train. Also i have submitted application and fingerprints the week before. I am submitting the form the same day. Anyone know how long recently it has been taking to get your LTC in hand?
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Re: Nervous LTC test

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Post by gabeZherrera » Sun May 19, 2019 3:12 pm

joe817 wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 3:02 pm
gabeZherrera wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 2:38 pm
Good news, passed with 232/250. Thank you everyone for the tips and I will continue to train. Also i have submitted application and fingerprints the week before. I am submitting the form the same day. Anyone know how long recently it has been taking to get your LTC in hand?
See? It wasn't so bad after all, was it? And CONGRATULATIONS! The length of time you'll get the license depends on how much is in your file(arrests, convictions, dismissals, etc.)
It wasnt bad at all! No arrests or convictions, no tickets at all. Also do you know if the LTC100 paper needs to be submitted via PDF to the dps website? Or a picture of it

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Re: Nervous LTC test

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Post by AF-Odin » Sun May 19, 2019 3:28 pm

PDF works just fine. Congratulations. Your score was god enough to pass the LTC Instructor course, just need a 225.
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Re: Nervous LTC test

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Post by Caribe » Sun May 19, 2019 6:57 pm

Next time you go to the range bring some snap caps. Load one magazine alternating cap and live round. Concentrate on the trigger press and watch that front sight for movement. Next load a magazine randomly with caps and live rounds and do the same. :cheers2:

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Post by jmorris » Sun May 19, 2019 9:17 pm

gabeZherrera wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 3:12 pm
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It wasnt bad at all! No arrests or convictions, no tickets at all. Also do you know if the LTC100 paper needs to be submitted via PDF to the dps website? Or a picture of it
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