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Re: Trying something out

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Post by 74novaman » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:35 am

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If you're younger than me, then it is safe to say that I am vested to a larger degree in the outcome of social security reform than you are. That "rob Peter to pay Paul" kind of snarkiness can cut both ways. You don't want to pay into my retirement. Fine. I want all my money back. All of it. I want you to get your money back too, but since I'm a bigger investor than you by virtue of having been in the work place for far longer, I should be ahead of you in the payout line. I'll get mine. If there's any money left, maybe you'll get yours. How do you like that? We're not talking about a bad investment in a private corporation here. We're talking about the full faith and credit of the United States of America. I whole-heartedly agree that SS is a ponzi-scheme. I whole-heartedly agree that the system needs to be reformed. I whole-heartedly agree that reformation should consist of privatizing it. But, I also insist on getting paid back every penny of what I put into it, since I had no legal choice in the matter. Anything less is highway robbery. So, if you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet (which seems to be your POV), better that your, smaller, less valuable egg be broken than my, larger, more valuable egg.

How do you like that?
I'd be fine with it, as long as the robbery stopped now.

Edit: You'll notice I never said it was going to be pretty. I don't expect the old folks to take all the suffering and pain. If we have to do it your way, then that is fine. If I never see a PENNY of what I put in, even if I have to put into this lie for the next 20 years, I'm fine with it. I'll consider that the price of doing things the right way and if that is the sacrifice required to stop the lie of govt funded retirement, then I'll gladly pay it.
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Re: Trying something out

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Post by sjfcontrol » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:37 am

The Annoyed Man wrote:And with that, I fear that we have strayed far off topic, which was.................nothing.....
Actually, we've strayed ON TOPIC!

I agree with your general approach, but I want some return on my investment. Just giving my original contributions (over some 45 years) back at this point won't hack it.
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Re: Trying something out

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Post by 74novaman » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:39 am

sjfcontrol wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:And with that, I fear that we have strayed far off topic, which was.................nothing.....
Actually, we've strayed ON TOPIC!

I agree with your general approach, but I want some return on my investment. Just giving my original contributions (over some 45 years) back at this point won't hack it.
And that is why we'll just run the system into the ground instead of fixing it.

If we could simply return what people 40 and over had put in, and people 40 and under didn't get a penny back but we ended the system, I would support it 100%.
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Re: Trying something out

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Post by sjfcontrol » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:46 am

It has to do with the time value of money.
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Re: Trying something out

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Post by SQLGeek » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:01 pm

Ahem...

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Re: Trying something out

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Post by sjfcontrol » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:06 pm

SQLGeek wrote:Ahem...

I love lamp!
I lava lamp! :evil2:
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Re: Trying something out

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Post by i8godzilla » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:37 pm

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Re: Trying something out

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Post by RPB » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:46 pm

sjfcontrol wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:And with that, I fear that we have strayed far off topic, which was.................nothing.....
Actually, we've strayed ON TOPIC!
ok, now this is on oddity, a thread in the off topic section staying on topic.... I think I woke up in the TWILITE Zone ....

Which reminds me of a Dick Van Dyke show .... where he had to check if people had thumbs ...
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Re: Trying something out

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Post by sjfcontrol » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:03 pm

RPB wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:And with that, I fear that we have strayed far off topic, which was.................nothing.....
Actually, we've strayed ON TOPIC!
ok, now this is on oddity, a thread in the off topic section staying on topic.... I think I woke up in the TWILITE Zone ....

Which reminds me of a Dick Van Dyke show .... where he had to check if people had thumbs ...
But, this "off topic" thread doesn't have a topic, therefore it doesn't belong in the off-topic category, or the on-topic category. It thus becomes the "schrodinger's cat" of threads,, where we continuously flow from no-topic, to topic, to off-topic, and back again without the ability to determine which state we are currently in.

In the end, we'll just have to open the box and see if the cat is dead...

(I always figured that eventually the experimenters would be able to tell the cat's state by 'sniffing' the box.)


Whew, there, I think we dodged a bullet! (Uh oh, back to a topic again...)
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Re: Trying something out

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Post by terryg » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:27 pm

sjfcontrol wrote:(I always figured that eventually the experimenters would be able to tell the cat's state by 'sniffing' the box.)
Ahh, see but that still involves an observation thereby changing the outcome of the experiment. Moments before the experimenters diaphragm would flex to begin the expansion that would pull in the air and microscopic particles that would activate the smell receptors, the cat is both alive and dead. The air around the box would contain both decaying flesh particles as well as health cat dander. Or so it would seem ...
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Re: Trying something out

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Post by The Annoyed Man » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:30 pm

• Give me Liberty or I'll get up and get it myself.
• I don't carry because of the odds, I carry because of the stakes.
• My dream is to have lived my life so well that future generations of leftists will demand my name be removed from buildings.
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Re: Trying something out

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Post by VoiceofReason » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:45 pm

Can a person quote themselves? :headscratch I mean is it possible? :headscratch
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Re: Trying something out

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Post by sjfcontrol » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:56 pm

sjfcontrol wrote:
SQLGeek wrote:Ahem...

I love lamp!
I lava lamp! :evil2:

Yep!
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Re: Trying something out

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Post by SQLGeek » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:11 pm

sjfcontrol wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:
SQLGeek wrote:Ahem...

I love lamp!
I lava lamp! :evil2:

Yep!

So how many nested quotes can we get?
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Re: Trying something out

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Post by sjfcontrol » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:20 pm

There is a limit, but I don't remember what it is. 5 is 6 I think. Why?
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