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NCAA realignment

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Post by A-R » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:38 am

So this is a huge story in Austin. The Statesman just declared it all but official that UT, OU, OSU, and Tech are going to Pac 10 (with A&M the only holdout still deciding between SEC and Pac 10). http://www.statesman.com/news/local/ut- ... 42900.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And of course now all the state legislators from Waco area will waste legislative time complaining that Baylor got left behind. No offense to Baylor alums, but I went to U of Houston and our athletics program was decimated for 10-plus years because Baylor weaseled its way into Big 12 where it didn't belong - UH & TCU both have vastly superior athletic programs and would've been better fit in that conference when it formed 15 years ago.

But Baylor getting left out got me thinking, they should form a new conference with Notre Dame, TCU, SMU, BYU AND the service academies - Air Force, Army, Navy and call it the "Clinging to Our Guns and Religion Conference" (trademarked, 2010, austinrealtor :coolgleamA: )

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yeah yeah I know, long set up for a half-lame joke, but now we can all discuss college football .... :txflag:


edit: brainstorming with a friend and came up with an even better name for this conference ....

The God & Country Conference
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Post by joe817 » Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:27 am

But Baylor getting left out got me thinking, they should form a new conference with Notre Dame, TCU, SMU, BYU AND the service academies - Air Force, Army, Navy and call it the "Clinging to Our Guns and Religion Conference"
That statement has a strong ring of truth in it! :clapping:

"TCU became the first-ever all-women team to claim the NCAA Rifle Championships, as the hosts put together two clean days at Daniel-Meyer Coliseum to eclipse all-male competitors Alaska-Fairbanks and win the school's first NCAA team title since 1983. "

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Post by lama » Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:47 am

not one to argue about sports but there is more to it then football. just saying other teams for baylor have done well. (admit that some of that was more recent but still you said athletic program and then seem to focus on our crap football team.)

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Post by UpTheIrons » Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:59 pm

This kinda makes that UT/UCLA football deal announced several months back seem all the more prescient. I wonder how long these talks have been going on.
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Post by gemini » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:39 pm

Folks, it's all about TV contracts and money. Big 12? They have Baylor, Kansas, Iowa, Missouri...... not really
big TV audience draws. I would like UT, Tech & A&M, OU to go SEC. Play Fla., Alabama, Auburn, UG etc....
but what I'd like to see won't influence anything. The almight $$$$$ will dictate what happens.

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Post by A-R » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:46 pm

lama wrote:not one to argue about sports but there is more to it then football. just saying other teams for baylor have done well. (admit that some of that was more recent but still you said athletic program and then seem to focus on our crap football team.)
I've argued this point many times with Baylor alums. And each side has its arguments. But Baylor's recent success in women's basketball notwithstanding, what else has that athletic program done that UH has NOT done? More importantly, what HAD Baylor done as of 1996 that UH had not done equally or better?

Circa 1996:

Football - UH had the third best record of all SWC teams (behind UT & A&M) during the years it was in the league (mid 1970s to 1995). Also had a Heisman Trophy winner (Andre Ware 1989) and a Lombardi Award winner (Wilson Whitley 1976).

Basketball - Phi Slamma Jamma? Three - count 'em THREE - players named to the NBA's Top 50 of all time (Olajuwon, Drexler, and Elvin Hayes) - multiple NCAA final 8 and Final 4 appearances in 1980s (though admittedly the program was down by 1995, but at least our players didn't kill each other)

Track & Field - could be called a wash as both programs are world class - Carl Lewis and Leroy Burrell (UH) Michael Johnson and Jeremy Wariner (Baylor) are all Olympic gold medalists

Baseball - another wash, Baylor and UH have both been BETTER baseball teams since the last realignment. Neither was a pushover in SWC, but neither had blossomed yet

Most sports beyond this don't get enough explosure to matter in terms of conference realignment decision (let's face it, no one aligns a school with a conference because of a great tennis team or field hockey team), but ....

Golf - UH owns 16 (count 'em 16) NCAA NATIONAL championships in men's golf

Anyway, this argument is 15 years old now and water under the bridge for the most part. But it will give me a warm fuzzy to see Baylor finally get its comeuppance after the way they used politics to weasel into the Big 12 fifteen years ago. Baylor and Tech made the Big 12 over UH because there were more Baylor alums (and a few more Tech alums) than UH alums in the Texas legislature at the time

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Post by A-R » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:50 pm

gemini wrote:Folks, it's all about TV contracts and money. Big 12? They have Baylor, Kansas, Iowa, Missouri...... not really
big TV audience draws. I would like UT, Tech & A&M, OU to go SEC. Play Fla., Alabama, Auburn, UG etc....
but what I'd like to see won't influence anything. The almight $$$$$ will dictate what happens.
Agree completely with your assessment. Still it just STINKS that there won't be a major conference representing "middle America" anymore. Like so many other things, it's all West Coast vs East Coast now - only difference is East Coast in NCAA is still separated between north (Big 10) and south (SEC) with Big East and ACC also thrown in.

This column from the Kansas City newspaper sort of sums it all up (a bit of a woe is me crybaby diatribe, but they have a legitimate reason for the tears in their beers in Kansas and Missouri, if you ask me)

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/06/10/20 ... ansas.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by cougartex » Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:19 pm

gemini wrote:Folks, it's all about TV contracts and money. Big 12? They have Baylor, Kansas, Iowa, Missouri...... not really
big TV audience draws. I would like UT, Tech & A&M, OU to go SEC. Play Fla., Alabama, Auburn, UG etc....
but what I'd like to see won't influence anything. The almight $$$$$ will dictate what happens.
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