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Hollywood: Home of the not Brave

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There were no credible threats, but Sony Pictures claimed security concerns when they pulled a movie that wasn't flattering to tin pot dictators. In response, some theater owners with guts planned to show Team America in place of the cowards' movie. Unfortunately, Paramount pulled Team America, because they didn't want anybody to think Sony was more chicken than Paramount.

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I understand being cautious, as I'm sure most of us on this forum do, but this is just stupid. No credible threat, no real clue of who pulled off the hacking, hackers typically don't want to sacrifice their hands working with explosives and lastly if it is North Korea then they know what they'd be committing by inciting this. I'm half convinced that pulling it from Christmas release is a stunt in order to get more people to go see it because I doubt Sony will be making money on pictures anytime soon due to all of the destruction the hackers have caused.
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Paramount Pictures is not allowing theaters to show Team America: World Police either. Derka derka.
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Redneck_Buddha wrote:Paramount Pictures is not allowing theaters to show Team America: World Police either. Derka derka.
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Something else is going on here. Sony would make big bucks with this movie, just on the buzz alone. And there are theaters that would show it. Instead, they'll shelf the movie - which is exactly what has been demanded.
Why would they do that? I'm not sure it's for public safety.
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I suspect either blackmail or publicity stunt is what is actually going on with Sony. As for Team America, lets just say that the current political environment is probably to blame for that one.
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cb1000rider wrote:Something else is going on here. Sony would make big bucks with this movie, just on the buzz alone. And there are theaters that would show it. Instead, they'll shelf the movie - which is exactly what has been demanded.
Why would they do that? I'm not sure it's for public safety.
My understanding is that a lot of data (not sure of the nature of the "data") and emails were compromised. Seems like there could be a pretty good load of blackmail material in that cache. I wouldn't be surprised to eventually learn that considerations other than "public safety" were the deciding factor in pulling the movie.
Also as far as "hacked" goes, I'd put my money on a disgruntled employee selling or giving away a password. It would not be the first time that has happened. At my company, we routinely delete the account of any employee leaving the company for any reason. (exceptions to those who continue in a freelance role.) Even so, we've had a couple of bad eggs do some damage before their termination. In our case, the worst was a sales person taking privileged customer account information with them to our competition.

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Please keep in mind that Sony is NOT an American company.

It is a Japanese company, with offices in our country in order to make money. Please take a look at the history between Japan and N. Korea, as well as N. Koreas backer, China.

This might change how this story is perceived if our media looked into the entire situation. But our media seems to act only on 'feelings' and popular opinion, facts having no place in their writings or speeches.

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CoffeeNut wrote:I understand being cautious, as I'm sure most of us on this forum do, but this is just stupid. No credible threat, no real clue of who pulled off the hacking, hackers typically don't want to sacrifice their hands working with explosives and lastly if it is North Korea then they know what they'd be committing by inciting this. I'm half convinced that pulling it from Christmas release is a stunt in order to get more people to go see it because I doubt Sony will be making money on pictures anytime soon due to all of the destruction the hackers have caused.
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BigGuy wrote: Also as far as "hacked" goes, I'd put my money on a disgruntled employee selling or giving away a password. It would not be the first time that has happened. At my company, we routinely delete the account of any employee leaving the company for any reason. (exceptions to those who continue in a freelance role.) Even so, we've had a couple of bad eggs do some damage before their termination. In our case, the worst was a sales person taking privileged customer account information with them to our competition.
Although that's entirely possible, understand that internet infrastructure is under constant attack. Constant. And I don't work for a high-profile company that might have done something to anger a country with a substantially sophisticated technical team that was trained to compromise security...

I don't know that it is North Korea, but their good hackers are treated like rockstars over there. If you've got to live in N. Korea, be a good hacker.

What is a little odd is the hack was radically pervasive. Obviously they got total control of email and total control of what was probably substantially locked down movie content. There are probably very few users that have that level of access. And none of this was detected until the hackers tipped their hand. It's not so "wow" that they got in. It's total "wow" that they had that level of control without being detected.

Someone in Sony's tech team is so fired... :-)

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I figure the movie just royally sucked. Looking at the two actors in it, that is a distinct possibility. :mrgreen:
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I wasn't planning on seeing it and if it is ever released, I still won't see it. Just doesn't look that good to begin with. I'm planning on seeing American Sniper as soon as it comes out though. I have heard nothing but positive reviews so far including Mrs. Kyle.
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StewNTexas wrote:Please keep in mind that Sony is NOT an American company.

It is a Japanese company, with offices in our country in order to make money. Please take a look at the history between Japan and N. Korea, as well as N. Koreas backer, China.

This might change how this story is perceived if our media looked into the entire situation. But our media seems to act only on 'feelings' and popular opinion, facts having no place in their writings or speeches.

No, I do not have tinfoil headgear, and have never seen a black helicopter.
This is a good point. My concern for a Japanese company is minimal.
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