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BOUNTY HUNTERS

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Post by WTR » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:47 pm

I had a fried called this morning asking if bounty hunters could ignore no trespassing signs. He was awakened early this morning by a pounding on his door. These people were demeaning to search his home, back yard and insinuated they would kill his dogs if need be. Someone must have given out his address falsely, as he has never heard of or seen this fugitive. He is legally posted. I called the Sheriff's, but they were of no help. The BHs are actually luck they didn't cross this guy anymore than they did. He is ready for bear.

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Post by ScottDLS » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:09 pm

WTR wrote:I had a fried called this morning asking if bounty hunters could ignore no trespassing signs. He was awakened early this morning by a pounding on his door. These people were demeaning to search his home, back yard and insinuated they would kill his dogs if need be. Someone must have given out his address falsely, as he has never heard of or seen this fugitive. He is legally posted. I called the Sheriff's, but they were of no help. The BHs are actually luck they didn't cross this guy anymore than they did. He is ready for bear.
I don't see anything in PC 30.05 (criminal trespass) that exempts Bounty Hunters or Bail Enforcement Agents, or whatever they're calling themselves these days. One possible exception might be on the property of the bail jumper. I'm sure that the in the bond contract the "bailee" grants the bond company the right to enter his property. Doesn't seem like this was the case for your friend. BH's probably lucky they didn't get shot! I'm confused why the sheriff wouldn't help though. :???:
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(3) a person who was:
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reasonably believed had, effective consent or authorization provided by law
to enter the property; and
(B) performing a duty within the scope of that employment or agency.
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Post by gljjt » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:18 pm

I would guess the sheriff couldn't help because they were gone by then


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Post by WTR » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:12 pm

I called the Sheriff's office after the fact, only to ask what a bail enforcers rights are.......the sheriff's office did not know .My friend says they were very aggressive. I'm just glad they did not try to shoot one of his babies (dogs) He would have started and ended WWIII.

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Post by nightmare69 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:16 pm

Next time tell your friend to not open the door for someone they don't know. Call the police and have them contact the bounty hunters.
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Post by WTR » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:25 pm

nightmare69 wrote:Next time tell your friend to not open the door for someone they don't know. Call the police and have them contact the bounty hunters.
He spoke to them thru a locked (heavy security type screen) door. Good advice,However, as we both live in the country and it has always taken the Deputies about an hour to respond to what they consider a " non emergency" call. Just wondering if the no tresoass signs would apply to the bail enforcers......... but thanks.


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Post by chuck j » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:43 pm

Aint nobody gonna come on my property and tell me what to do . Gather up the dogs and fort up . Call the law .


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Post by WTR » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:46 pm

chuck j wrote:Aint nobody gonna come on my property and tell me what to do . Gather up the dogs and fort up . Call the law .
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Post by tlt » Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:19 pm

Where's it happen?
Proof of Bounty Hunters claims, or ID?
License Plate #'s
file a compliant for trespass and threats if they threatened him.


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Post by WTR » Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:30 pm

I wasn't there, so I have no idea what was offered in the way of ID. He was just wondering if they legally could ignore a no trespassing sign. According to him, they definitely insinuate they have all sorts of rights. Probably they were just trying to i intimidate him.....they chose the wrong retired jar head.


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Post by chuck j » Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:46 pm

Aint got time for that , do whats right in your own mind .


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Post by EEllis » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:04 am

No they can't ignore a no trespass sign but generally speaking, sign or not, going up and knocking at a door is not tresspassing. If it's ok for the mail carrier, UPS, or Fed EX to walk up then anyone can. When someone gets bonded out they do give up some right but that only goes for their rights. No one else's.

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Post by Glockster » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:15 am

EEllis wrote:No they can't ignore a no trespass sign but generally speaking, sign or not, going up and knocking at a door is not tresspassing. If it's ok for the mail carrier, UPS, or Fed EX to walk up then anyone can. When someone gets bonded out they do give up some right but that only goes for their rights. No one else's.
I disagree - commercial carriers or USPS in delivering your packages or mail have been given by you at least implicit permission to do so. The same for a utility services meter reader as you would have authorized that as a term of services. As for someone else trespassing by coming to your door, I think that depends upon where you have it posted. If you have a fence around your yard and a gate, and it is posted, then passing that point I believe would be trespass as your property is not open to the public. If it is just the door posted, then I believe that it is at that point that the potential for trespass begins. So I think that it depends upon where and how the notice is given, and here the OP didn't say where the signs were or the other conditions.
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Post by WTR » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:19 am

He did his research. He posted per the laws of Texas. At all gates and every 50' if I remember correctly. They even opened a marked gate to get in.

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Post by Glockster » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:37 am

WTR wrote:He did his research. He posted per the laws of Texas. At all gates and every 50' if I remember correctly. They even opened a marked gate to get in.
Sure sounds like trespass to me. And did they do that with weapons?
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