Today in Trump's new term as President

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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by bblhd672 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:31 am

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Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:08 pm
I don't know if Mattis is right or wrong but if one disagrees with the president than resigning is the right thing to do. My personal experience with generals is that they are not necessarily the smartest men in the world and that their self interest is not to wind things down but to keep things going. We also have a civilian commander in chief and one follows his orders in our system. The U.S. can not be the policemen of the world. We have enough men and women put in body bags over this fight and not enough of our "allies" doing their fair share. At least we won't have one of the guys we are training turn around and kill one of us.
We pulled out of Viet Nam and I believe history has shown that it was a smart move and that relations with that country are at least acceptable now. Time will tell how this move goes but I don't see that our generals have been overly correct in the past.
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https://kakistocracyblog.wordpress.com/ ... r-is-hell/
Finally, the dismount was struck with this solemn lament: we should keep our troops in Syria and get them off the US border where they don’t belong. Where do troops belong? That’s actually a fundamental question more than a political one. As such, why does a country form an armed forces? To defend foreign ethnostates? I mean, an additional foreign ethnostate? Is it foreign democracy? Foreign freedom? Foreign trade? What does the military do for us? Given the Pentagon’s $676 billion price tag, it’s a question to which many more non-foreigners should be demanding an answer.

The obvious fact is that the core function of militaries is to prevent invasion of their sponsoring nation. If they do nothing else, they have served their purpose. If they do not serve this purpose, then nothing else they do matters.


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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by philip964 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:05 am

https://apnews.com/1c239d63b2634f9caadd4053bae058d8

Justice Roberts sided with the Liberal judges including RBG who voted from the hospital to affirm an "Obama judges" ruling that Trump could not require asylum seekers to enter the country through legal ports of entry. Thus asylum seekers could continue to try and sneak in to the country through dangerous routes and if caught could then raise the asylum defense after caught. This policy will stand until the lawsuit weaves its way through the courts which could take years.

Justice Roberts vote in favor of Obamacare as a tax didn't work out too well for him, if his plan was to allow Obamacare to continue.

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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by Bitter Clinger » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:50 am

Trump is Right to Withdraw from Syria
But James Mattis and other failed analysts are still pushing their failed policies and demanding we stay there.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/272315 ... rt-spencer

Pull Out of Syria and Afghanistan, Use the Money to Build a Wall
Take the $50 billion we spent arming Jihadis, and use it to build a big wall to keep them out of America.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/272319 ... greenfield
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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by philip964 » Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:34 pm

Government is shut down. Depending on the outcome. Trump may have a chance in 2020.

Dems seem as dug in as the President.

They want unfettered immigration to the US.

It is an interesting plan. Get as many new citizens as possible into the US. Make sure they all understand that Dems got them into the country and citizenship. They will be poor and in need of services. Make sure their are plenty of services via the Dems. Dems will then control the country forever. (it appeared that if HIlliary was elected they would control the country hook or crook forever anyway).

Its not a bad plan, especially if your in a leadership position with the Dem party. The leaders always do well. Even in Venezuela the leadership does well.

The plan ends up with the US as a third world country, but that wouldn't be for fifty years, so why not.

I'm figuring medicare for all will be the first item on the Dems list. Medicare will decline and mom and dad will get worse care, so they will die off earlier helping Social Security. Much hIgher taxes for everyone who has a better job, Corporations will pay the most, they will be nationalized when they try to relocate outside the US. Double the minimum wage (they will pay no taxes). They will want all former prisoners to vote. Let violent prisoners out of jail more room for political prisoners. Means testing for Social Security, so they can have more money for free stuff. Everyone on Social Security will get the same, no more, more you put in, more you get out. Lots and lots of new federal workers to hand out all the free stuff. At some point moving money or yourself out of the country will have to be restricted. Freedom of movement is not in the Bill of Rights so that will easy. Probably somewhere along here we will have a few Supreme Court Justices have bad accidents or a heart attack. The US will become friends with China, North Korea and Venezuela, the US will be all interested in all that new citizen spying and tracking gear they are working on right now.

And most important - Got to get all the guns, that will be near the top. Can't have anyone threatening to fight back.

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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by Suri » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:15 pm

rotor wrote:
Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:08 pm
I don't know if Mattis is right or wrong but if one disagrees with the president than resigning is the right thing to do.
Really, don't you think a leader needs input from differing points of view and debate?
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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by Bitter Clinger » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:32 pm

Suri wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:15 pm
rotor wrote:
Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:08 pm
I don't know if Mattis is right or wrong but if one disagrees with the president than resigning is the right thing to do.
Really, don't you think a leader needs input from differing points of view and debate?
Of course. And Trump had two full years to listen to General Mattis and to evaluate him as a team member. Eventually a reasoned decision was made.
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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by philip964 » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:49 pm

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/defens ... of-defense

Trump kicks Mattis out early, appoints new acting Defense Secretary. I guess I’m hearing Obama fired Mattis first.

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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by Grumpy1993 » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:56 pm

anygunanywhere wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:05 pm
I'm pretty sure there is more wrong than celebrities. Buy more ammo. Train. Get your head clear.
QFT

Especially that last part.
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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by rotor » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:58 pm

Suri wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:15 pm
rotor wrote:
Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:08 pm
I don't know if Mattis is right or wrong but if one disagrees with the president than resigning is the right thing to do.
Really, don't you think a leader needs input from differing points of view and debate?
Trump didn't fire him, he resigned. When the commander in chief has made a decision and as Truman said, "the buck stops here", you either agree with your boss or you are free to leave. I served in the military and didn't agree with many of the decisions my superiors made and I was not free to "leave". I don't know if Trump is making the right decision or not but if not perhaps the Brits or Germans would like to step up and fill in for our departing soldiers. You know, all of our NATO allies.

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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by Grumpy1993 » Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:06 pm

Suri wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:15 pm
rotor wrote:
Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:08 pm
I don't know if Mattis is right or wrong but if one disagrees with the president than resigning is the right thing to do.
Really, don't you think a leader needs input from differing points of view and debate?
Absolutely! However, if I'm employed in an advisory role, and my most important advice is not heeded, at some point I'm going to stop banging my head against the wall and leave that role. Maybe I'll go where I can make a difference. Maybe I'll throw in the towel. Maybe I'll do something else entirely, but I'm not Sisyphus, and I'm not obligated to labor in vain.
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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by Bitter Clinger » Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:43 pm

Withdrawing from Syria Implements the Trump Doctrine
That’s what it takes to actually win.
December 24, 2018 Daniel Greenfield

Trump’s actions in Syria encompass his preference for flexibility, quick strikes or withdrawals with no long term commitment. And that’s exactly what frustrates a national security establishment whose watershed moment was still the post-war reconstruction of Germany and Japan. They foolishly misread Trump by confusing commitment with consistency, and unpredictability with inconsistency:

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/272337 ... greenfield
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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by philip964 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:45 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html

Christmas wishes to Trump from the Washington Post.


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Post by philip964 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:50 pm

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/26/politics ... index.html

Their dad diagnosed Donald Trump with bone spurs as a favor to FredTrump says late doctors daughters.

Clinton got a General to write his draft board and then didn’t do as he promised, if I remember correctly.

George W. Bush got some strings pulled and got into the National Guard.

I got a college deferment then a high lottery number.

There were many true patriots that volunteered for service in Vietnam. It will always be a shame the politicians let them down.

I honor their service and will always remember the names I know on the wall. God bless them all.

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Post by JustSomeOldGuy » Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:02 pm

So now the libs are going to be demanding foot xrays along with those tax returns they've been clamoring for?
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