East Texas landowner kills 400lb hog with AR15

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Re: East Texas landowner kills 400lb hog with AR15

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Post by The Annoyed Man » Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:50 pm

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pbwalker wrote:My question is around how many rounds it took. I've dropped smaller hogs with one round and I'm curious if he was able to do the same on this one.
My question is, when did an AR15 become “a little extra firepower” when hog hunting? I guess those of us who use .308s are going to have to turn in our man cards. :lol:
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Re: East Texas landowner kills 400lb hog with AR15

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Post by rotor » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:08 pm

So what do most use? .308 is what I thought a minimum for a mature pig. .223 in ball maybe for piglets and small pigs? 7.62x39hp with a quality AK47? .44Mag with a lever marlin? 30-30 lever Marlin? I know people drop them with 22lr but seriously what's best.
I would have wanted something more powerful than an AR-15 with a 400# hog. That thing charges and the pig would not be the only bad smell.

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Re: East Texas landowner kills 400lb hog with AR15

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Post by pbwalker » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:34 am

rotor wrote:So what do most use? .308 is what I thought a minimum for a mature pig. .223 in ball maybe for piglets and small pigs? 7.62x39hp with a quality AK47? .44Mag with a lever marlin? 30-30 lever Marlin? I know people drop them with 22lr but seriously what's best.
I would have wanted something more powerful than an AR-15 with a 400# hog. That thing charges and the pig would not be the only bad smell.
In my opinion, as big as you have should be the minimum. I've hunted them with .30-30, .270, x39, and .223. If I was trudging through brush, I had a .44 on my hip.
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Re: East Texas landowner kills 400lb hog with AR15

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Post by Lynyrd » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:53 am

rotor wrote:So what do most use? .308 is what I thought a minimum for a mature pig. .223 in ball maybe for piglets and small pigs? 7.62x39hp with a quality AK47? .44Mag with a lever marlin? 30-30 lever Marlin? I know people drop them with 22lr but seriously what's best.
I would have wanted something more powerful than an AR-15 with a 400# hog. That thing charges and the pig would not be the only bad smell.
It all depends on shot placement. Hogs have two weak spots. The heart, which is very small, and very hard to hit. And the spinal column in the neck. Oh, and they also have a weak spot in the skull just above the eyes. A .22lr can kill them easily with a straight on shot to that spot, but it's only about the size of a penny.

I've shot them in the shoulder with a 180 gr 30.06 from 40 yds and never found the hog. I've also shot them in the neck with a .55 gr .556 and seen them drop right there. I've shot them in the head with a .357 and seen them run off when I didn't hit the soft spot. And, I've shot them in a trap just above the eyes with a .22lr and had them drop dead instantly.
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Re: East Texas landowner kills 400lb hog with AR15

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Post by clarionite » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:07 pm

Lynyrd wrote:
rotor wrote:So what do most use? .308 is what I thought a minimum for a mature pig. .223 in ball maybe for piglets and small pigs? 7.62x39hp with a quality AK47? .44Mag with a lever marlin? 30-30 lever Marlin? I know people drop them with 22lr but seriously what's best.
I would have wanted something more powerful than an AR-15 with a 400# hog. That thing charges and the pig would not be the only bad smell.
It all depends on shot placement. Hogs have two weak spots. The heart, which is very small, and very hard to hit. And the spinal column in the neck. Oh, and they also have a weak spot in the skull just above the eyes. A .22lr can kill them easily with a straight on shot to that spot, but it's only about the size of a penny.

I've shot them in the shoulder with a 180 gr 30.06 from 40 yds and never found the hog. I've also shot them in the neck with a .55 gr .556 and seen them drop right there. I've shot them in the head with a .357 and seen them run off when I didn't hit the soft spot. And, I've shot them in a trap just above the eyes with a .22lr and had them drop dead instantly.
I helped a friend butcher a pig. They had never done it themselves, but had put a few down. When it came time to drop it in the trap I pulled out a 22 pistol. One of the guys said, I have a .357 in the truck, it's going to take more than that. I turned around and dropped the pig. He was stunned. I told him it was all about placement, not caliber. But having grown up on a farm, and having worked in a slaughter house as a young man gave me a little more insight into putting one down quickly than he'd have had.

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Re: East Texas landowner kills 400lb hog with AR15

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Post by anygunanywhere » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:31 pm

Keith B wrote:
Abraham wrote:I'd like to what grain, mfg, etc. cartridge did he use.

Plus, where was his bullet placement?

How did he confirm it's weight?

Scale or guesstimate...?
Seeing as the article says 416 lbs, I would guesstimate he used a scale.....
Probably.

There is a method where you measure the chest circumference just behind the front legs and reference the attached chart to give a good estimate of weight.


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Re: East Texas landowner kills 400lb hog with AR15

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Post by RoyGBiv » Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:14 am

Lynyrd wrote:I kill better than 50 hogs/yr, and I've weighed a lot of them. I ain't buying the weight number. More like 295-315. As for the taking too long to find him, that's what happens with light loads. I've dropped a lot of them with a .556, but you have to hit them in the neck and break the spine. I've also seen hogs that size killed in cold weather and handled right. Put on ice quick. And when the meat hits the skillet it stinks you out of the kitchen. I agree with others that any mature boar is not worth eating. I've tried soaking them in brine for days, and the meat still stunk when you cooked it. They get a hormone at maturity that permeates the meat.

Now a sow, or a young pig under 100 lbs, quite tasty. I haven't bought sausage at the store in years. Them little 20 pound pigs are my favorite to eat.
I'm hungry after reading this. :drool:
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Re: East Texas landowner kills 400lb hog with AR15

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Post by lonestar144 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:36 pm

This was just down the road from where I live, was a big story for a while. Although I have not seen one this size, I have seen many that were close to 300+lbs. The natural springs and marshy areas here are prime hog grounds and the fact there are many farms around with large corn, pea and bean crops, lots of food for em. I have prolly shot around 20 hogs in the past 3 yrs, only kept a few, gave the rest away.


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Re: East Texas landowner kills 400lb hog with AR15

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Post by MaduroBU » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:38 pm

The most prolific elephant hunter in history, JDM Bell, killed most of his elephants with a 6.5 Swedish.

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