80 blocks of C4 and Claymores found buried in Arizona desert.

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Re: 80 blocks of C4 and Claymores found buried in Arizona desert.

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jason812 wrote:The ATF should be ashamed of themselves. This was clearly somebody's party favors and were going to have one heck of a good time.
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Re: 80 blocks of C4 and Claymores found buried in Arizona desert.

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mrvmax wrote:Well, if they left the military nomenclature on it then it won’t be hard to track down. Well, at least to the point showing who it was issued to. It will only be a matter of time from there to find out who’s going to prison.
When you were in the military, you were one of the crazy guys that played with bombs, right?

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This could be interesting, 7 year statute of limitations on everything but murder and tax fraud, if they manage to find out who made the cache can they actually prosecute them?
Charles there is nothing wrong with playing things that go BOOM! I came within three days of going to Redstone Alabama for Bomb school, the city ran out of money and I didn't get to go!
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Re: 80 blocks of C4 and Claymores found buried in Arizona desert.

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mrvmax wrote:Well, if they left the military nomenclature on it then it won’t be hard to track down. Well, at least to the point showing who it was issued to. It will only be a matter of time from there to find out who’s going to prison.
When you were in the military, you were one of the crazy guys that played with bombs, right?

Chas.
Yep, used plenty of c4 and the packaging makes it easy to track. Disposed of some claymores but never got to play with them.


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Re: 80 blocks of C4 and Claymores found buried in Arizona desert.

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Post by mrvmax » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:28 am

crazy2medic wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
mrvmax wrote:Well, if they left the military nomenclature on it then it won’t be hard to track down. Well, at least to the point showing who it was issued to. It will only be a matter of time from there to find out who’s going to prison.
When you were in the military, you were one of the crazy guys that played with bombs, right?

Chas.
This could be interesting, 7 year statute of limitations on everything but murder and tax fraud, if they manage to find out who made the cache can they actually prosecute them?
Charles there is nothing wrong with playing things that go BOOM! I came within three days of going to Redstone Alabama for Bomb school, the city ran out of money and I didn't get to go!
I would guess that if they were still active duty yes.

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crazy2medic wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
mrvmax wrote:Well, if they left the military nomenclature on it then it won’t be hard to track down. Well, at least to the point showing who it was issued to. It will only be a matter of time from there to find out who’s going to prison.
When you were in the military, you were one of the crazy guys that played with bombs, right?

Chas.
. . . Charles there is nothing wrong with playing things that go BOOM! I came within three days of going to Redstone Alabama for Bomb school, the city ran out of money and I didn't get to go!
I feel about bombs the same way I do burning buildings. I'll watch you guys from a loooooong way off!

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Re: 80 blocks of C4 and Claymores found buried in Arizona desert.

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Post by The Annoyed Man » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:03 am

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crazy2medic wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
mrvmax wrote:Well, if they left the military nomenclature on it then it won’t be hard to track down. Well, at least to the point showing who it was issued to. It will only be a matter of time from there to find out who’s going to prison.
When you were in the military, you were one of the crazy guys that played with bombs, right?

Chas.
. . . Charles there is nothing wrong with playing things that go BOOM! I came within three days of going to Redstone Alabama for Bomb school, the city ran out of money and I didn't get to go!
I feel about bombs the same way I do burning buildings. I'll watch you guys from a loooooong way off!

Chas.
I’ll watch over your shoulder......although......it would be kind of interesting to have that stuff if one had a safe way of storing it. It would make tannerite seem kind of pitiful and tame by comparison. SURELY there is some kind of fun redneck stunt you could pull with it that wouldn’t kill you, singe off your eyebrows, or riddle your hide with BBs. :mrgreen:
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Re: 80 blocks of C4 and Claymores found buried in Arizona desert.

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Post by crazy2medic » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:22 am

I went to a post-blast investigation class, part of that class I got to set off half a block of C4, VERY IMPRESSIVE! It doesn't take much to absolutely destroy a car! Crazy thing is it's relatively safe as long there is no blasting cap.
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Re: 80 blocks of C4 and Claymores found buried in Arizona desert.

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Post by roadkill » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:06 am

The Annoyed Man wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
crazy2medic wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
mrvmax wrote:Well, if they left the military nomenclature on it then it won’t be hard to track down. Well, at least to the point showing who it was issued to. It will only be a matter of time from there to find out who’s going to prison.
When you were in the military, you were one of the crazy guys that played with bombs, right?

Chas.
. . . Charles there is nothing wrong with playing things that go BOOM! I came within three days of going to Redstone Alabama for Bomb school, the city ran out of money and I didn't get to go!
I feel about bombs the same way I do burning buildings. I'll watch you guys from a loooooong way off!

Chas.
I’ll watch over your shoulder......although......it would be kind of interesting to have that stuff if one had a safe way of storing it. It would make tannerite seem kind of pitiful and tame by comparison. SURELY there is some kind of fun redneck stunt you could pull with it that wouldn’t kill you, singe off your eyebrows, or riddle your hide with BBs. :mrgreen:
But how many rednecks would it take to figure out just exactly what that stunt was and how to do it “safely”. Many would perish in the perfection of just such a stunt.


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Re: 80 blocks of C4 and Claymores found buried in Arizona desert.

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Post by mrvmax » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:46 am

crazy2medic wrote:Crazy thing is it's relatively safe as long there is no blasting cap.
Yep, had to be pretty safe to handle under most circumstances. Some guys did dumb things with it, one of them being eating small amounts. Supposedly small amounts ingested cause some temporary craziness but I never saw that first hand. I’ve been told C4 works well for small fires since it burns well. You just don’t want any shock on it when it’s burning.
We used more C4 than I can remember, it was our main go-to explosive along with time fuse and igniters. I got to use a variety of stuff - c4, TNT, dynamite. C4 was best for most applications though, I regularly had bits of C4 on my Leatherman blade from cutting those 1 1/4 pound blocks. I still have my blasting cap crimpers and blasting cap box in my office.

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mrvmax wrote: I’ve been told C4 works well for small fires since it burns well. You just don’t want any shock on it when it’s burning.
A USMC Nam vet friend of mine told me how they'd burn small pieces. That evidently stopped when one of the guys in his unit stomped it out with his boot.
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Re: 80 blocks of C4 and Claymores found buried in Arizona desert.

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SQLGeek wrote:
mrvmax wrote: I’ve been told C4 works well for small fires since it burns well. You just don’t want any shock on it when it’s burning.
A USMC Nam vet friend of mine told me how they'd burn small pieces. That evidently stopped when one of the guys in his unit stomped it out with his boot.
Makes me shudder just to think about that.
Was there anything left of the foot?
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He didn't go into detail but I get the impression that it wasn't likely.
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Post by The Annoyed Man » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:18 pm

roadkill wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
crazy2medic wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
mrvmax wrote:Well, if they left the military nomenclature on it then it won’t be hard to track down. Well, at least to the point showing who it was issued to. It will only be a matter of time from there to find out who’s going to prison.
When you were in the military, you were one of the crazy guys that played with bombs, right?

Chas.
. . . Charles there is nothing wrong with playing things that go BOOM! I came within three days of going to Redstone Alabama for Bomb school, the city ran out of money and I didn't get to go!
I feel about bombs the same way I do burning buildings. I'll watch you guys from a loooooong way off!

Chas.
I’ll watch over your shoulder......although......it would be kind of interesting to have that stuff if one had a safe way of storing it. It would make tannerite seem kind of pitiful and tame by comparison. SURELY there is some kind of fun redneck stunt you could pull with it that wouldn’t kill you, singe off your eyebrows, or riddle your hide with BBs. :mrgreen:
But how many rednecks would it take to figure out just exactly what that stunt was and how to do it “safely”. Many would perish in the perfection of just such a stunt.
Wait.... is this one of those “how many ________ does it take to ______” jokes? :lol:
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Re: 80 blocks of C4 and Claymores found buried in Arizona desert.

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Post by The Annoyed Man » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:20 pm

OldCurlyWolf wrote:
SQLGeek wrote:
mrvmax wrote: I’ve been told C4 works well for small fires since it burns well. You just don’t want any shock on it when it’s burning.
A USMC Nam vet friend of mine told me how they'd burn small pieces. That evidently stopped when one of the guys in his unit stomped it out with his boot.
Makes me shudder just to think about that.
Was there anything left of the foot?
My dad told me that on Iwo Jima, they used burning pinches of C4 to heat coffee in cups. Apparently, it burns nicely, and fairly safely - requiring a detonator of some kind to make it detonate. Otherwise, a pinch of it burns just like a candle.

[EDITED TO ADD THE WORD "HEAT" ABOVE - TAM]
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