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Re: Reporting Multiple Sales

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Post by Scott B. » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:22 am

Unless the FFL tells you, or you ask, you won't know. The majority of FFLs are type 1. Type 7s can manufacture firearms. There are other types that don't matter for this conversation. Some FFLs maintain multiple licenses for different aspects of their business.
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Re: Reporting Multiple Sales

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mrvmax wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:33 am
jsenner wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:08 pm
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Are FFL required to report multiple stripped receiver sales?
To answer the question a bit more directly, no, FFLs do not report multiple sales of receivers.
Correct, a receiver is not a firearm so it doesn’t fall under the multiple rifle sales reporting requirements.
Thank you.

I thought that was the case because a stripped receiver is a firearm but shouldn't be a rifle or pistol until it has a barrel but wanted to check because ATF doesn't always follow logic.
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Post by The Annoyed Man » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:39 pm

mrvmax wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:33 am
jsenner wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:08 pm
BBYC wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:55 pm
Are FFL required to report multiple stripped receiver sales?
To answer the question a bit more directly, no, FFLs do not report multiple sales of receivers.
Correct, a receiver is not a firearm so it doesn’t fall under the multiple rifle sales reporting requirements.
If it is not considered to be a gun of some kind, then why do you have to fill out a 4473 for an AR lower? :evil2:
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Post by crazy2medic » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:45 pm

ATF considers the AR Lower the enire gun
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Re: Reporting Multiple Sales

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Post by Maxwell » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:41 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote:
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I sure wish I could afford to buy multiple guns all at once. :biggrinjester:
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Re: Reporting Multiple Sales

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Post by mrvmax » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:17 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:39 pm
mrvmax wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:33 am
jsenner wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:08 pm
BBYC wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:55 pm
Are FFL required to report multiple stripped receiver sales?
To answer the question a bit more directly, no, FFLs do not report multiple sales of receivers.
Correct, a receiver is not a firearm so it doesn’t fall under the multiple rifle sales reporting requirements.
If it is not considered to be a gun of some kind, then why do you have to fill out a 4473 for an AR lower? :evil2:
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Re: Reporting Multiple Sales

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Post by puma guy » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:31 pm

mrvmax wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:17 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:39 pm
mrvmax wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:33 am
jsenner wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:08 pm
BBYC wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:55 pm
Are FFL required to report multiple stripped receiver sales?
To answer the question a bit more directly, no, FFLs do not report multiple sales of receivers.
Correct, a receiver is not a firearm so it doesn’t fall under the multiple rifle sales reporting requirements.
If it is not considered to be a gun of some kind, then why do you have to fill out a 4473 for an AR lower? :evil2:
I never said they make sense, I don’t understand much of what they do and sometimes they don’t understand it either
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What types of rifles are required to be reported?

A2. The rifle transactions that must be reported are dispositions of semiautomatic rifles capable of accepting a detachable magazine and with a caliber greater than .22 (including .223/5.56 caliber) to an unlicensed person. However, the reporting requirement does not apply to receivers for such rifles. You may contact the Firearms Technology Branch at (304) 616-4300 if you are unable to determine if the rifles are subject to the reporting requirements.
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Re: Reporting Multiple Sales

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Post by The Annoyed Man » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:52 pm

mrvmax wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:17 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:39 pm
mrvmax wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:33 am
jsenner wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:08 pm
BBYC wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:55 pm
Are FFL required to report multiple stripped receiver sales?
To answer the question a bit more directly, no, FFLs do not report multiple sales of receivers.
Correct, a receiver is not a firearm so it doesn’t fall under the multiple rifle sales reporting requirements.
If it is not considered to be a gun of some kind, then why do you have to fill out a 4473 for an AR lower? :evil2:
I never said they make sense, I don’t understand much of what they do and sometimes they don’t understand it either
OK, so just to be clear.......if I bought 15 Remington 700 receivers, 15 Glock 17 lowers, and 15 Mossberg 500 receivers, they would all be treated the same as AR15 receivers for the purposes of ATF? .....not that I’d have any such intentions......
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Re: Reporting Multiple Sales

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Post by apostate » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:26 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:52 pm
OK, so just to be clear.......if I bought 15 Remington 700 receivers, 15 Glock 17 lowers, and 15 Mossberg 500 receivers, they would all be treated the same as AR15 receivers for the purposes of ATF? .....not that I’d have any such intentions......
I believe multiple Remington 700 and Mossberg 500 purchases wouldn't be reported, even if they're complete firearms, because bolt action and pump action long guns are not subject to that requirement.

I suspect the Glock frames would be transferred as handguns, and multiple sales would be reported. However, IANAL nor do I hold a FFL these days.

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Re: Reporting Multiple Sales

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Post by Scott B. » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:41 pm

The frames or receivers would not be reported, as they are not yet a pistol or rifle. They have no caliber, no barrel, etc.

Fun twist. Since a rifle receiver is not a 'rifle' you cannot purchase one from a dealer if you're under 21. 18 and over can buy a rifle/shotgun, but not a 'receiver'.

There's all kinds of fun you can have w/ ATF rules and regs.
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Re: Reporting Multiple Sales

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Post by locke_n_load » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:57 pm

puma guy wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:00 pm
Wolverine wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:26 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:21 pm
I sure wish I could afford to buy multiple guns all at once. :biggrinjester:
Somebody was selling $30 lowers a while back.
:thumbs2: Primary Arms in Houston had stripped Anderson lowers for $29.99!
I bought 3, picked up in person, for under $100.
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Re: Reporting Multiple Sales

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Post by apostate » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:01 pm

locke_n_load wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:57 pm
I bought 3, picked up in person, for under $100.
I was tempted but still have two from a previous $30 sale I haven't built yet. However, I did yield to temptation and got a Spike's Honey Badger lower for $75 from PA last week.
locke_n_load wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:57 pm
If you aren't on some kind of list by now, you aren't doing something right!
:iagree: :txflag:

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