MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Approximately 364 of the guns stolen from an UPS facility in Memphis have been recovered in route to Chicago.
According to a federal criminal complaint, the UPS facility received a shipment from the Ruger factory in North Carolina on September 28. The 16 pallets of firearms were scheduled to leave two days later for Dallas, Texas.
Before they could be shipped, two men entered the Brooks Road facility, loaded three pallets into a U-Haul van and sped away. Authorities said there were roughly 367 guns in those pallets. All of the weapons were either .22 caliber or .380 caliber firearms, authorities said.
364 guns stolen in Memphis intercepted on way to Chicago
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Re: 364 guns stolen in Memphis intercepted on way to Chicago
Sounds like an inside job, how did they know those guns were there, on that particular night? Since it was not reported that anything else was taken. I would bet, they got a tip, and maybe a door was left unlocked. JMHObblhd672 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:40 pm https://wreg.com/2018/10/02/sources-350 ... o-chicago/
MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Approximately 364 of the guns stolen from an UPS facility in Memphis have been recovered in route to Chicago.
According to a federal criminal complaint, the UPS facility received a shipment from the Ruger factory in North Carolina on September 28. The 16 pallets of firearms were scheduled to leave two days later for Dallas, Texas.
Before they could be shipped, two men entered the Brooks Road facility, loaded three pallets into a U-Haul van and sped away. Authorities said there were roughly 367 guns in those pallets. All of the weapons were either .22 caliber or .380 caliber firearms, authorities said.
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Re: 364 guns stolen in Memphis intercepted on way to Chicago
That's what I was thinking. I'm sure law enforcement in Memphis as well as UPS management are thinking the same thing.Jusme wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:44 pmSounds like an inside job, how did they know those guns were there, on that particular night? Since it was not reported that anything else was taken. I would bet, they got a tip, and maybe a door was left unlocked. JMHObblhd672 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:40 pm https://wreg.com/2018/10/02/sources-350 ... o-chicago/
MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Approximately 364 of the guns stolen from an UPS facility in Memphis have been recovered in route to Chicago.
According to a federal criminal complaint, the UPS facility received a shipment from the Ruger factory in North Carolina on September 28. The 16 pallets of firearms were scheduled to leave two days later for Dallas, Texas.
Before they could be shipped, two men entered the Brooks Road facility, loaded three pallets into a U-Haul van and sped away. Authorities said there were roughly 367 guns in those pallets. All of the weapons were either .22 caliber or .380 caliber firearms, authorities said.
Initial news story about the robbery:
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Re: 364 guns stolen in Memphis intercepted on way to Chicago
367 guns stolen
364 guns recovered
99% isn't too shabby
364 guns recovered
99% isn't too shabby
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Re: 364 guns stolen in Memphis intercepted on way to Chicago
That was a lot of risk for $18.5 K or so in street value ...oh wait, thats right criminals in general are stupid
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Re: 364 guns stolen in Memphis intercepted on way to Chicago
I assume a stolen .380 could fetch $500 (That's retail for an LCP, I think) from a gangbanger who has no other option. If the .22s fetch half of that and the guns were half of each type, then you're looking at $135k minus expenses.
Not a life changing score, but enough to make an idiot take foolish risks.
Not a life changing score, but enough to make an idiot take foolish risks.
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Re: 364 guns stolen in Memphis intercepted on way to Chicago
I thought street price for a piece was $150? Or were these cheaper because they were all mouse guns?
Definitely sounds like they had inside information.
Definitely sounds like they had inside information.
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Re: 364 guns stolen in Memphis intercepted on way to Chicago
Chicago gangbangers aren't going to pay retail. More likely $50-$100 each. I hope these guys and their accomplices get nice long federal prison terms.MaduroBU wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:46 pm I assume a stolen .380 could fetch $500 (That's retail for an LCP, I think) from a gangbanger who has no other option. If the .22s fetch half of that and the guns were half of each type, then you're looking at $135k minus expenses.
Not a life changing score, but enough to make an idiot take foolish risks.
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Re: 364 guns stolen in Memphis intercepted on way to Chicago
Non-employee thieves backed up a rental truck and stole 3 pallets of guns????
It seems a forklift or pallet jack would be needed.
When I think of a UPS facility, I tend to think of them as 24/7/365 operations.
This theft apparently did not occur at such a site.
By the way, freight trains sit on tracks for long periods of time in Chicago, where another large theft of guns involved Ruger's on their way from New Hampshire to points west of Chicago. This was several years back.
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It seems a forklift or pallet jack would be needed.
When I think of a UPS facility, I tend to think of them as 24/7/365 operations.
This theft apparently did not occur at such a site.
By the way, freight trains sit on tracks for long periods of time in Chicago, where another large theft of guns involved Ruger's on their way from New Hampshire to points west of Chicago. This was several years back.
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/201 ... rain-yard/
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Re: 364 guns stolen in Memphis intercepted on way to Chicago
There are many reports, stories and articles on street gun prices..prices very from $25 if the seller is just looking for their next $25 rock, to a few $K if it s a fully Auto rifle, clean IE no bodies or other criminal activity linked to it.MaduroBU wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:46 pm I assume a stolen .380 could fetch $500 (That's retail for an LCP, I think) from a gangbanger who has no other option. If the .22s fetch half of that and the guns were half of each type, then you're looking at $135k minus expenses.
Not a life changing score, but enough to make an idiot take foolish risks.
Many of the articles I read before positing had a price in the $50 range for a mouse gun..so I used that number.
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I don't doubt what you've said, but that information is startling to me. Why would you deal in contraband when your illegal goods sell for LESS than their legal counterparts? I don't give criminals much credit for accounting skill or brains in general, but man, comparing two numbers is not rocket science.E.Marquez wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:42 amThere are many reports, stories and articles on street gun prices..prices very from $25 if the seller is just looking for their next $25 rock, to a few $K if it s a fully Auto rifle, clean IE no bodies or other criminal activity linked to it.MaduroBU wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:46 pm I assume a stolen .380 could fetch $500 (That's retail for an LCP, I think) from a gangbanger who has no other option. If the .22s fetch half of that and the guns were half of each type, then you're looking at $135k minus expenses.
Not a life changing score, but enough to make an idiot take foolish risks.
Many of the articles I read before positing had a price in the $50 range for a mouse gun..so I used that number.
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Re: 364 guns stolen in Memphis intercepted on way to Chicago
Stolen goods are never worth anywhere near their usual value because the buyer assumes the risk of being caught with stolen goods. When the goods are firearms, each with it's own unique serial number, the risk goes way up.MaduroBU wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:36 pmI don't doubt what you've said, but that information is startling to me. Why would you deal in contraband when your illegal goods sell for LESS than their legal counterparts? I don't give criminals much credit for accounting skill or brains in general, but man, comparing two numbers is not rocket science.E.Marquez wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:42 amThere are many reports, stories and articles on street gun prices..prices very from $25 if the seller is just looking for their next $25 rock, to a few $K if it s a fully Auto rifle, clean IE no bodies or other criminal activity linked to it.MaduroBU wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:46 pm I assume a stolen .380 could fetch $500 (That's retail for an LCP, I think) from a gangbanger who has no other option. If the .22s fetch half of that and the guns were half of each type, then you're looking at $135k minus expenses.
Not a life changing score, but enough to make an idiot take foolish risks.
Many of the articles I read before positing had a price in the $50 range for a mouse gun..so I used that number.
For the same reason, the person selling the firearm is anxious to get rid of it and turn it into ready cash. Add into that, often times it was stolen just to get money for that next drug fix.
It's very much a buyer's market.
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