TX: Cy Fair student settles with district over not standing for Pledge of Allegiance

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TX: Cy Fair student settles with district over not standing for Pledge of Allegiance

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Post by philip964 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:04 pm

https://www.click2houston.com/news/laws ... ce-settled

Interesting case. An adult, not in the Military, certainly has every right to disrespect our country. Previous court rulings have shown that students at school and even not in school do not have the same rights. Bong hits for Jesus sign comes to mind.

The taxpayers at Cy Fair I guess get to pay some more taxes. Interesting State of Texas has not settled.

Conversely I think her classmates, potential employers and the general public can express their feelings about what she stands for as well. For the rest of her life, she can be proud that she made the news for disrespecting her country.

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Post by WTR » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:27 pm

I had a classmate more than 50 years ago who stood upside the classroom every morning during the pledge due to religious reasons. No one cried foul. People need to get a life.


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Post by striker55 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:52 am

Our schools have been in decline, bring back the paddle and maybe use it on some parents.


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Post by OlBill » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:02 am

The student is right.


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Post by TreyHouston » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:36 am

It never said it was settled by thr district.

Cy-Fair ISD released the following statement:

"Cypress-Fairbanks ISD did not enter into a settlement, though this was inaccurately inferred by the Plaintiff's press release, issued on Dec. 27. In actuality, the District was dismissed from the case and was not a part of any settlement. It is the District's understanding that the Plaintiff settled with one of the individual Defendants, Ms. Strother.
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Re: TX: Cy Fair student settles with district over not standing for Pledge of Allegiance

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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:44 am

WTR wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:27 pm
I had a classmate more than 50 years ago who stood upside the classroom every morning during the pledge due to religious reasons. No one cried foul. People need to get a life.
The atmosphere a half century ago was not remotely close to what it is today. There's a concerted effort to destroy America from within and showing contempt for the very institution that allows you do descent erodes the foundation of this country.

The SCOTUS has ruled that students in school do not have the same First Amendment Rights as adults. The judge should have thrown the case out and sanctioned the family and their attorney for filing a frivolous suit.

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Post by Soccerdad1995 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:03 am

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:44 am
WTR wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:27 pm
I had a classmate more than 50 years ago who stood upside the classroom every morning during the pledge due to religious reasons. No one cried foul. People need to get a life.
The atmosphere a half century ago was not remotely close to what it is today. There's a concerted effort to destroy America from within and showing contempt for the very institution that allows you do descent erodes the foundation of this country.

The SCOTUS has ruled that students in school do not have the same First Amendment Rights as adults. The judge should have thrown the case out and sanctioned the family and their attorney for filing a frivolous suit.

Chas.
I completely agree with the sentiment. I fought in combat for this country and for the right of people that I completely disagree with to act like complete punks by disrespecting everything I believe in. I lost good friends who died making sure that we all have these and other rights. And I also agree with the SCOTUS ruling that students should not have all of the same constitutional rights as adults. Of course in this case, the student was also an adult, which does complicate that point a bit.

But I also think that any infringement on student's rights should be justified by a necessity for the safety of the rest of the students (in the case of locker searches, etc), or for the need to have an effective learning environment. If a student wants to quietly register their disagreement with something by silently sitting instead of standing, I don't think they should be disciplined by the school. As long as they are not disruptive. I don't know whether this case met that criteria.

Given the left leaning nature of schools in this country, the principles here are important, as the specific situation could easily be very different than the issue in this case. I am thinking of the very real possibility that a school might call for students to stand in honor of illegal immigrants who are "unfairly being victimized by not being allowed to enter the US at will." If that were the situation, and a school expelled a student who refused to participate, I definitely would not want to see that student's case thrown out and their family sanctioned. The key to me is whether the student is being disruptive of the learning environment as a whole.
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Post by longtooth » Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:10 am

Advocates for Landry argued her case was not about showing disrespect but instead about freedom of expression.

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The above argument can be summarized as: This case was not about showing disrespect but instead about freedom of her expression; of deep disdain and disrespect for the very Nation whose $$s she wants more than moving to a socialist nation that will throw her and her parents in jail for the same behavior in their country.
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Post by flechero » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:46 pm

a child in school does not have unlimited "freedom of expression" while in school.... just as most adults don't have complete freedom while at work.

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Post by ScottDLS » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:32 pm

flechero wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:46 pm
a child in school does not have unlimited "freedom of expression" while in school.... just as most adults don't have complete freedom while at work.
In this case I believe she was an adult in school.
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Post by TreyHouston » Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:26 pm

How is 17 y/o an adult?
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