Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

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Post by Ruark » Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:31 pm

As we know, you can contract the CV and infect someone else before you have any symptoms, i.e. before you yourself know you have it. So for how long a period can this happen? How long between the time you can spread it to the time you start having symptoms?
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Post by eyedoc » Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:51 pm

Ruark wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:31 pm
As we know, you can contract the CV and infect someone else before you have any symptoms, i.e. before you yourself know you have it. So for how long a period can this happen? How long between the time you can spread it to the time you start having symptoms?
Up to two weeks is the general time span accepted now.


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Post by Ruark » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:09 pm

2 weeks?? Wow. So all those people testing "negative" at the airports could be active carriers.
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Post by eyedoc » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:31 pm

Ruark wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:09 pm
2 weeks?? Wow. So all those people testing "negative" at the airports could be active carriers.
Correct.

There was an invitation only teleconference on it yesterday for medical personal.

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Post by Beiruty » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:54 pm

US should start developing "doom's-day" contingencies. Example, China is building 4 1000-beds hospitals in a 8-10days.
We should have plan to do that for each large city of 1,000,000+ citizens.

I have a deep feeling in such scenarios like the CoronaVirus, we are on our own. Recommendation, plan on bag out to a remote cave our yours .
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Post by Beiruty » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:56 pm

The declared numbers of confirmed infections are doubling each 48hrs
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Post by strogg » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:11 pm

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/man-be ... s-pandemic

At this point I'm convinced it came from the lab, and the bat soup market is just a terrible cover-up attempt. Accident or not, it is looking terrible for the research lab, and thus the Chinese government.

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Post by 03Lightningrocks » Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:39 am

strogg wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:11 pm
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/man-be ... s-pandemic

At this point I'm convinced it came from the lab, and the bat soup market is just a terrible cover-up attempt. Accident or not, it is looking terrible for the research lab, and thus the Chinese government.
I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but I am starting to think the same thing. Like was posted above, the cases are doubling every day. This thing has the possibility of being real bad.


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Post by Rob72 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:30 am

Beiruty wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:54 pm
US should start developing "doom's-day" contingencies. Example, China is building 4 1000-beds hospitals in a 8-10days.
We should have plan to do that for each large city of 1,000,000+ citizens.

I have a deep feeling in such scenarios like the CoronaVirus, we are on our own. Recommendation, plan on bag out to a remote cave our yours .
No First World construct is prepared for a true pandemic, nor can one be made without having secure national production facilities. The disposable safety and treatment materials are burned through in days, then you're left with attempting to sterilize syringes, IV tubing and bags, etc., used on the deceased in bleach bath to treat the newly presenting. You can make your own NS solution pretty easily, but maintaining sterility and fully solute solution is, we'll say, challenging, in a Mogadishu/Kosovo/Rio style situation.

China is in the Catch-22 of having the facilities, but being totally incapable of securing them, from either pathogens or sabotage by workers.


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Post by Grayling813 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:01 pm

Just a coincidence I'm sure....

Harvard Chemistry Chair & Two Chinese Nationals Arrested For Lying About China Ties, Smuggling "Biological Material"
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/harva ... -smuggling
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Post by philip964 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:34 pm

I have been told 10% bleach and 90% water is a very effective disinfectant including level4.


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Post by strogg » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:09 pm

philip964 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:34 pm
I have been told 10% bleach and 90% water is a very effective disinfectant including level4.
Yes, that's what the blood lab at my company uses. In its diluted form, The bleach isn't nearly as offensive as it is straight out of the bottle.


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Post by philip964 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:05 pm

https://www.click2houston.com/news/worl ... rs-spread/

7000 being held on a cruise ship in at port near Rome, while waiting results of woman from Hong Kong who has a fever.


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Post by Rob72 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:50 pm

philip964 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:34 pm
I have been told 10% bleach and 90% water is a very effective disinfectant including level4.
True, but overly simplistic. What that means, with a virulent airborne pathogen, is that you have a 2-3 "portal" entry into your home, and a means of handling clothing worn on the outside.

You leave for work, not in a bug-suit, but masked. You come home. You step into the outer tent and get a vapor dispersion bath of (home recipe) 10% bleach. Wait about 3 minutes, and strip naked. Get bathed again, after placing your clothes in a sealed laundry bucket that's in the tent with you. wait. Step into the ante-chamber where you get a rinse. That's really basic, and unnecessary for most things, but really "iffy" for anything on the order of pneumonic plague.

So, yes, bleach solution is a great disinfectant, but every time someone infected with an airborne pathogen breathes, more vapor is expelled, needing decon.

If it isn't overly virulent, wiping down your doorknobs, places where bags & purses are dropped at the end of the day, and LOTS of hand washing is about as good as you'll get. Be sure to use a good hand cream, as dry, cracked skin is an entry for other infections.

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