Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

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Post by philip964 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:12 pm

Man from Beaumont suspected of having Coronavirus.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/texa ... icial-say/

Person from Wisconsin has it. Just came back from Beijing. Didn’t visit Wuhan. 12th case in US.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/05/wisconsin ... -us-to-12/
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Post by surferdaddy » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:19 pm

philip964 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:12 pm
Man from Beaumont suspected of having Coronavirus.
No link, sorry just announced on TV.

Person from Wisconsin has it. Just came back from Beijing. Didn’t visit Wuhan. 12th case in US.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/05/wisconsin ... -us-to-12/
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Post by jason812 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:40 pm

How long has it been since the first cases in the US were diagnosed? Shouldn't they have recovered by now?

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Post by DocV » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:08 pm

jason812 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:40 pm
How long has it been since the first cases in the US were diagnosed? Shouldn't they have recovered by now?
Excellent question. It looks like the first case reported in the US was the Chicago case reported here, and referenced on WHO sitreps, on 24 Jan. I find no reports of "recovered" though. Evidently Corona lasts a while.
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Post by PriestTheRunner » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:43 am

philip964 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:36 pm
Tencent a big Chinese internet company may have accidentally released the real numbers

25,000 dead 150,000 potential infected ( I have rounded off the numbers they posted). That would be a 16% mortality rate, except some of those infected could still die.
FYI, the below image is of the screenshot.

If this isn't a real dataset, then one has to ask how it got up there and who created it.

An accidental (or malicious) distribution of the real numers seems much more likely than something so randomly higher (and consistent).

Also, Tencent manages a TON of the data for the government and is government run. It is very possible that they would have the real numbers.

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Post by philip964 » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:34 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... pdate-news

Doctor who first sounded the alarm in China has died.

It’s now in India. That is bad because they do not have a great healthcare system, coupled with much freer society.

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Post by Beiruty » Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:27 pm

philip964 wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:34 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... pdate-news

Doctor who first sounded the alarm in China has died.

It’s now in India. That is bad because they do not have a great healthcare system, coupled with much freer society.
A healthy 34-years old doctor died in less than 3 weeks. Reportedly, he was infected in Jan 14, died today Feb 6. That is a very nasty Corona
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Post by PriestTheRunner » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:14 pm

Beiruty wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:30 pm
634 died
30,800 infected
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6
The spread rate over the next two weeks in western countries will tell us if China was lying or not.

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Post by Beiruty » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:39 pm

PriestTheRunner wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:14 pm
Beiruty wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:30 pm
634 died
30,800 infected
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6
The spread rate over the next two weeks in western countries will tell us if China was lying or not.
If it starts spreading in India, that would be very bad news.
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Post by Excaliber » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:00 am

PriestTheRunner wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:43 am
philip964 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:36 pm
Tencent a big Chinese internet company may have accidentally released the real numbers

25,000 dead 150,000 potential infected ( I have rounded off the numbers they posted). That would be a 16% mortality rate, except some of those infected could still die.
FYI, the below image is of the screenshot.

If this isn't a real dataset, then one has to ask how it got up there and who created it.

An accidental (or malicious) distribution of the real numers seems much more likely than something so randomly higher (and consistent).

Also, Tencent manages a TON of the data for the government and is government run. It is very possible that they would have the real numbers.

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These numbers are much more consistent with the projections made by infectious disease experts weeks ago. They also comport well with the anecdotal videos coming out of China that show multiple bodies stacked in hospitals and people dropping dead in the streets. It also would explain why China is locking down millions of people with draconian measures. They wouldn't do that for a few hundred deaths.

The Chinese consistently lie to cover up news that makes them look bad. This situation is no exception.

If the disease begins to spread here (and that is very likely because there were no controls in place during the first weeks) the only individual defense available is likely to be to plan to not to leave your property for any reason for 6 - 8 weeks as it burns its way through available hosts in your area. Those who wait to stock up on essentials will also likely find them not available when everyone else goes into a buying panic.
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Post by philip964 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:54 am

https://www.bloombergquint.com/global-e ... g-in-china

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Post by philip964 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:02 am

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/coro ... l-n1132136

8 Americans have Coronavirus aboard that quarantine Princess cruise ship in Japan.

So did they have the disease when it was quarantined, or did they get it because they are locked up on a ship with diseased people.

If it’s the first then they would all be back here spreading it around.

I can’t imagine what it’s like on that ship right now.


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Post by LDP » Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:47 pm

philip964 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:02 am
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/coro ... l-n1132136

8 Americans have Coronavirus aboard that quarantine Princess cruise ship in Japan.

So did they have the disease when it was quarantined, or did they get it because they are locked up on a ship with diseased people.

If it’s the first then they would all be back here spreading it around.

I can’t imagine what it’s like on that ship right now.
Worst part is that the ship is a giant prison right now. All guest are confined to their cabins, no booze, no cigars, no fun.
Running out of things to read and clean clothes sounds like another problem.


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Post by philip964 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:42 pm

LDP wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:47 pm
philip964 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:02 am
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/coro ... l-n1132136

8 Americans have Coronavirus aboard that quarantine Princess cruise ship in Japan.

So did they have the disease when it was quarantined, or did they get it because they are locked up on a ship with diseased people.

If it’s the first then they would all be back here spreading it around.

I can’t imagine what it’s like on that ship right now.
Worst part is that the ship is a giant prison right now. All guest are confined to their cabins, no booze, no cigars, no fun.
Running out of things to read and clean clothes sounds like another problem.
Maybe a lot of babies in 9 months amoung the younger guests.

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