ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

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Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

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Post by AndyC » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:36 pm

I might just buy myself a Christmas present and get one of those in 12-ga
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Post by puma guy » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:44 pm

AndyC wrote:I might just buy myself a Christmas present and get one of those in 12-ga
:thumbs2: One can't have too many! :lol:
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Post by C-dub » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:49 am

After doing further research/education on these shotguns and O/U in general, I decided to go ahead and plunk down a deposit this morning. They will let me put it on layaway and if paid within 30 days in cash I get the same as cash price all at once. So, the first $200 is in.

A couple of the concerns I had were how stiff everything seemed, but after reading this morning, it seems that is all normal. Another concern I didn't even know about until this morning was that several complaints on just about any shotgun in this price range, not just ATI, was firing pin issues. However, after continuing to read I came to the conclusion that the two most commons causes of this issue was either not properly cocking the gun when breaking it open to reset the pins or a weak/malfunctioning spring that is supposed to retract the spring after firing to prevent the pins being broken when closing the gun after reloading. The later might seem to be the primary cause of most issues surrounding breakage of the pins.

Another thing I noticed what that there doesn't seem to be a lot of reviews from actual users of many of the ATI Cavalry line of shotguns. I will try and do our part here in this thread as we go forward. The plan is to put another $200 in after payday again in two weeks and then the final payment two more weeks after that. Then we should get out to fire it for the first time on New Years day since my club will be putting on its monthly 5-stand match. I will shoot that and then we'll go on down to the skeet area. I hope to give a report of that first day upon returning home that day.
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Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

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Post by puma guy » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:27 am

C-dub wrote:After doing further research/education on these shotguns and O/U in general, I decided to go ahead and plunk down a deposit this morning. They will let me put it on layaway and if paid within 30 days in cash I get the same as cash price all at once. So, the first $200 is in.

A couple of the concerns I had were how stiff everything seemed, but after reading this morning, it seems that is all normal. Another concern I didn't even know about until this morning was that several complaints on just about any shotgun in this price range, not just ATI, was firing pin issues. However, after continuing to read I came to the conclusion that the two most commons causes of this issue was either not properly cocking the gun when breaking it open to reset the pins or a weak/malfunctioning spring that is supposed to retract the spring after firing to prevent the pins being broken when closing the gun after reloading. The later might seem to be the primary cause of most issues surrounding breakage of the pins.

Another thing I noticed what that there doesn't seem to be a lot of reviews from actual users of many of the ATI Cavalry line of shotguns. I will try and do our part here in this thread as we go forward. The plan is to put another $200 in after payday again in two weeks and then the final payment two more weeks after that. Then we should get out to fire it for the first time on New Years day since my club will be putting on its monthly 5-stand match. I will shoot that and then we'll go on down to the skeet area. I hope to give a report of that first day upon returning home that day.
Did you get the ejector or extractor model? BTW is this your daughter who pulled and kept score for us on the skeet shoots at Elm Fork?
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Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

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Post by C-dub » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:17 pm

puma guy wrote:
C-dub wrote:After doing further research/education on these shotguns and O/U in general, I decided to go ahead and plunk down a deposit this morning. They will let me put it on layaway and if paid within 30 days in cash I get the same as cash price all at once. So, the first $200 is in.

A couple of the concerns I had were how stiff everything seemed, but after reading this morning, it seems that is all normal. Another concern I didn't even know about until this morning was that several complaints on just about any shotgun in this price range, not just ATI, was firing pin issues. However, after continuing to read I came to the conclusion that the two most commons causes of this issue was either not properly cocking the gun when breaking it open to reset the pins or a weak/malfunctioning spring that is supposed to retract the spring after firing to prevent the pins being broken when closing the gun after reloading. The later might seem to be the primary cause of most issues surrounding breakage of the pins.

Another thing I noticed what that there doesn't seem to be a lot of reviews from actual users of many of the ATI Cavalry line of shotguns. I will try and do our part here in this thread as we go forward. The plan is to put another $200 in after payday again in two weeks and then the final payment two more weeks after that. Then we should get out to fire it for the first time on New Years day since my club will be putting on its monthly 5-stand match. I will shoot that and then we'll go on down to the skeet area. I hope to give a report of that first day upon returning home that day.
Did you get the ejector or extractor model? BTW is this your daughter who pulled and kept score for us on the skeet shoots at Elm Fork?
The model they have had the ejectors and yes, she's my one and only.
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Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

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Post by AndyC » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:54 pm

Ejectors will make for some cool photos :mrgreen:
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Post by puma guy » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:10 pm

C-dub wrote:
puma guy wrote:
C-dub wrote:After doing further research/education on these shotguns and O/U in general, I decided to go ahead and plunk down a deposit this morning. They will let me put it on layaway and if paid within 30 days in cash I get the same as cash price all at once. So, the first $200 is in.

A couple of the concerns I had were how stiff everything seemed, but after reading this morning, it seems that is all normal. Another concern I didn't even know about until this morning was that several complaints on just about any shotgun in this price range, not just ATI, was firing pin issues. However, after continuing to read I came to the conclusion that the two most commons causes of this issue was either not properly cocking the gun when breaking it open to reset the pins or a weak/malfunctioning spring that is supposed to retract the spring after firing to prevent the pins being broken when closing the gun after reloading. The later might seem to be the primary cause of most issues surrounding breakage of the pins.

Another thing I noticed what that there doesn't seem to be a lot of reviews from actual users of many of the ATI Cavalry line of shotguns. I will try and do our part here in this thread as we go forward. The plan is to put another $200 in after payday again in two weeks and then the final payment two more weeks after that. Then we should get out to fire it for the first time on New Years day since my club will be putting on its monthly 5-stand match. I will shoot that and then we'll go on down to the skeet area. I hope to give a report of that first day upon returning home that day.
Did you get the ejector or extractor model? BTW is this your daughter who pulled and kept score for us on the skeet shoots at Elm Fork?
The model they have had the ejectors and yes, she's my one and only.
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Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

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Post by bulletslap » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:35 pm

There are two inexpensive Turkish Shotguns I would consider, the Yildiz from Academy and the CZ branded guns.

I would also lean towards the extractors.

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Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

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Post by C-dub » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:44 pm

bulletslap wrote:There are two inexpensive Turkish Shotguns I would consider, the Yildiz from Academy and the CZ branded guns.

I would also lean towards the extractors.
This will be my first O/U and after looking into all this I think I would have also preferred extractors, but this one is here and only a few blocks from my house. I think this will be just fine for getting her along a little further in skeet, trap, 5-stand, or even our new sporting clays course. We're starting off with skeet and we'll just see how she takes to that and if she wants to do anything else.
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Post by AndyC » Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:01 am

bulletslap wrote:I would also lean towards the extractors.
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Post by bulletslap » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:08 pm

I like hammers also :cool:

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Post by AndyC » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:53 am

We're only keeping you around so we have someone who's familiar with ancient tech when the Zombie Apocalypse happens ;)
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Post by bulletslap » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:27 pm

"rlol"

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Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

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Post by C-dub » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:45 pm

Made the final payment on it yesterday, picked it up, wrapped it, and gave it to her today for her birthday. She was so excited!

Good thing I put down a payment on it and thankful the guy let me put it on layaway. He said 4 other people had come in looking for one after I put my money down on it. He said the 20ga versions are hard to get a hold of. 12's he can get easily, but not the 20's.

Now to take it out to shoot. We might go out next weekend or New Years day. We'll see what the weather is like.
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Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

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Post by AndyC » Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:05 pm

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