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Post by tomneal » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:26 pm

But wait there is more:

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... rocity.htm

January 13, 2006

Rhode Island
Unilateral Proclamation, see note below
January 13, 2006

New York
Unilateral Proclamation, see note below
January 13, 2006

Hawaii
Unilateral Proclamation, see note below


Texas Establishes Concealed Handgun License Unilateral Proclamation With Other States
January 13, 2006

Rhode Island
Effective immediately, Governor Perry has issued a proclamation that allows persons with concealed handgun licenses issued by the attorney general of Rhode Island to legally carry in Texas. Rhode Island license holders will be required to follow Texas law while carrying in this state. Concealed handgun licenses issued by local authorities ARE NOT recognized under this proclamation. This proclamation is unilateral and is not a reciprocal agreement. Texas concealed handgun license holders will not be allowed to carry in Rhode Island.

January 13, 2006

New York
Effective immediately, Governor Perry has issued a proclamation that allows persons with concealed handgun licenses issued by the state of New York to legally carry in Texas. All New York license holders will be required to follow Texas law while carrying in this state. New York City issues a separate concealed handgun license (permit) and this permit will also be recognized under this proclamation. This proclamation is unilateral and is not a reciprocal agreement. Texas concealed handgun license holders will not be allowed to carry in New York.

January 13, 2006

Hawaii
Effective immediately, Governor Perry has issued a proclamation that allows persons with concealed handgun licenses from Hawaii will be allowed to carry in Texas. All Hawaii license holders will be required to follow Texas law while carrying in this state. This proclamation is unilateral and is not a reciprocal agreement. Texas concealed handgun license holders will not be allowed to carry in Hawaii.
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Post by mschadt » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:35 pm

Something tells me those states wont be returning the favor, at least not any time soon. :cry:
tomneal wrote: Hawaii
Effective immediately, Governor Perry has issued a proclamation that allows persons with concealed handgun licenses from Hawaii will be allowed to carry in Texas. All Hawaii license holders will be required to follow Texas law while carrying in this state. This proclamation is unilateral and is not a reciprocal agreement. Texas concealed handgun license holders will not be allowed to carry in Hawaii.
According to PDO that only seems to effect one person.
PDO wrote: Although provisions are on the books, licenses are seldom granted. In fact, nobody can remember anyone, except one police department civilian worker, ever receiving one.
Some things in this world really chaff my- nevermind... :evil:
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Post by KBCraig » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:36 pm

So, RI, NY, and HI. All told, that's what... about five more people who can now carry in Texas?

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How many??

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Post by tomneal » Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:34 pm

I don't know how many folks it affects but

I though the only person in Hawaii with a CHL lost it when her dad retired from being sheriff.

Rhode Island looks to be about the same size as Harris county.

BUT
I thought I read somewhere that the license required to OWN a gun in New York was a license to carry. I guess I need to do some research.
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Post by mschadt » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:03 pm

As I understand it.

New York has classes of permits the two that I know of are Target/Sport and Unrestricted. Target implies that you can only have a handgun with you on the way to and from a lawful event, (gun show, gunsmith, gun store, range, hunting, etc.), and I think it has to be unloaded and locked up separate from any ammo. [kinda like our handgun laws if you don’t have a CHL.] With an unrestricted you can carry anywhere you want, for the most part. But the unrestricted permits are near impossible to get in and around the Big Apple. Supposedly, the further you get from New York, NY the more likely you can get an unrestricted permit.

As for RI, my understanding there is a sizeable "donation" to the controlling political party made on the grounds that your application be approved is about the only way to get one.


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Re: How many??

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Post by Jacob Staff » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:12 pm

tomneal wrote:I though the only person in Hawaii with a CHL lost it when her dad retired from being sheriff.
It's a good thing Magnum P.I. is retired :lol:
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Post by stevie_d_64 » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:40 pm

If we are going to do it...Why don't we just unilaterally recognize everyones license or permit, whether they have one or not???

I think Texas is big enough to just do it...Its not going to hurt my feelings...

I bet one tough grandma wouldn't do anything to help...So we might as well get some leverage out of this while we can...

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Post by KBCraig » Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:09 pm

Alaska-style for 2007! :grin:

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Post by dws1117 » Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:14 pm

:iagree:

Alaska-style for 2007!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What else do we need?

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Post by tomneal » Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:09 am

Reciprocity with Alabama, New Hampshire, and Ohio

I don't know that I will ever travel to there but if I did, I would want to carry.


Alaska style carry in 2007
Count me as a +1 on that.


For CHL purposes:
Lets have a narrower definition of a school. Let's not include, trade school, church school when it's not in session. As a mater of fact why should any multi-use building be classified as a school when school is not in session. I don't think we should include college and universities.


Carry in employers parking lot:
The NRA want's to prevent employers from firing folks with guns in their personal car parked in the company parking lot.
I think that's a great idea.
So...
If you worked for Colt and you had a Kimber in your car
could they fire you for carrying another brand of gun?
(I used to work for Coke. They fired folks for drinking other colas.)
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Post by yerasimos » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:59 am

mschadt wrote:As I understand it.

New York has classes of permits the two that I know of are Target/Sport and Unrestricted. Target implies that you can only have a handgun with you on the way to and from a lawful event, (gun show, gunsmith, gun store, range, hunting, etc.), and I think it has to be unloaded and locked up separate from any ammo. [kinda like our handgun laws if you don’t have a CHL.] With an unrestricted you can carry anywhere you want, for the most part. But the unrestricted permits are near impossible to get in and around the Big Apple. Supposedly, the further you get from New York, NY the more likely you can get an unrestricted permit.
The class names (and format) of the "permits" varies from county to county, but your understanding of NYS laws on this matter is pretty much dead-on.

The only complaint I have with the universal proclamation vis a vis NYS is that Chuck Schumer would be able to carry in Texas with his NYPD-issued pistol permit. Somehow, that just seems so very . . . perverted.


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Post by longtooth » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:02 am

yerasimos, you are right. We don't need him in Texas. He don't know how to act when the playing field is level.
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Post by stevie_d_64 » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:36 am

longtooth wrote:yerasimos, you are right. We don't need him in Texas. He don't know how to act when the playing field is level.
Well hang on a minute...I'm having a moment of increased sarcasm here...Ok, its leveled out a bit...

Why not have Chucky be welcome in our State??? I mean if he were to get pulled over for some reason, then we could make him feel right at home by disarming him, removing ammunition from the firearm he's carrying, and telling him not to reload after they are gone...

Then...

Still write the citation...I just kinda hope its for running a stop sign...$215 seems like a fair fine for that... :smilelol5:

Ohhhh, am I going to get it now... :lol:
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Post by anygunanywhere » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:03 pm

stevie_d_64 wrote:Why not have Chucky be welcome in our State??? I mean if he were to get pulled over for some reason, then we could make him feel right at home by disarming him, removing ammunition from the firearm he's carrying, and telling him not to reload after they are gone...
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Post by stevie_d_64 » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:49 pm

anygunanywhere wrote:
stevie_d_64 wrote:Why not have Chucky be welcome in our State??? I mean if he were to get pulled over for some reason, then we could make him feel right at home by disarming him, removing ammunition from the firearm he's carrying, and telling him not to reload after they are gone...
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