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Texas resident with CHL going to CO and AZ

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Post by texas yankee » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:16 am

I have a trip planned that'll take me into AZ and CO - flying into and back home from Albuquerque - I checked handgunlaw.us and I know that my TX CHL license is accepted in CO and AZ , and I'm aware of the state-specific issues in CO and AZ that I need to know about. I believe that I'll be OK with my handgun in any national parks I visit or travel through, but it looks like any Native American lands ("tribal land") can be problematical - and looking at my route, I will be passing through at least a few areas of tribal land - if I understand Handgun Law US correctly, the safe bet is to keep my gun unloaded and locked in the car trunk whenever I am on any tribal land - which kind of defeats the purpose (SD) of having my gun with me.

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Post by Rex B » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:47 am

I think the Indi]D]D]D Native Americans are somewhat more amiable than in the past ;)

As a practical matter, people drive up and down I35 and I75 into Oklahoma all the time with guns in the glovebox. Once into Oklahoma, you are almost certain to be driving through an indian reservation, and may not even be aware of it. How often do you hear about peacable citizens facing tribal law enforcement over gun possession?

My experience driving through the Southwest is that it's pretty much a non-issue.

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Post by JSThane » Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:20 pm

So long as you don't stray off the highways and onto tribal roads, you're fine. I have driven through to Colorado and back many times with a loaded weapon on my person.

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Post by ScottDLS » Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:32 pm

Rex B wrote:I think the Indi]D]D]D Native Americans are somewhat more amiable than in the past ;)

As a practical matter, people drive up and down I35 and I75 into Oklahoma all the time with guns in the glovebox. Once into Oklahoma, you are almost certain to be driving through an indian reservation, and may not even be aware of it. How often do you hear about peacable citizens facing tribal law enforcement over gun possession?

My experience driving through the Southwest is that it's pretty much a non-issue.

YMMV IANAL etc.
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Post by Rex B » Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:18 pm

Now of course, being a Yankee, with Texas plates, traveling through Indian country, armed.....now THAT's just asking for trouble! :biggrinjester:
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Post by C-dub » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:43 pm

IIRC, CO put a 15 round max mag limit in place a year or two ago during one of their freakout periods. So, depending on what you're carrying that might be an issue.
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Post by texas yankee » Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:27 pm

Not a problem for me on this trip - I'll have a Glock 42 with me.
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Post by The Annoyed Man » Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:38 pm

I just got back today from AZ and NM today. Ghostbuster signs are legal signage in AZ. They have to be prominently displayed. I saw no such signs. I also saw nobody OC'ing......and I was specifically looking for that.
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Post by oljames3 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:19 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote:I just got back today from AZ and NM today. Ghostbuster signs are legal signage in AZ. They have to be prominently displayed. I saw no such signs. I also saw nobody OC'ing......and I was specifically looking for that.
I've read up on the laws and customs of carrying in AZ. CO was no issue as I only have one 15 round magazine.

Yes, in other states give gun-buster signs the force of law. You have to research each state carefully. My 18 year old son and I are going to Tucson next week. I'll carry openly as we pass through NM. We will both carry openly in AZ.

My route does not go through reservations. If it did, my plan would be to not stop. If I had to stop I would leave my pistol in the car. I find it really easy to disarm when carrying openly.

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Re: Texas resident with CHL going to CO and AZ

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Post by flynbenny » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:02 am

C-dub wrote:IIRC, CO put a 15 round max mag limit in place a year or two ago during one of their freakout periods. So, depending on what you're carrying that might be an issue.
The magazines are not prohibited provided you possessed the >15 rd mag before the ban date of June 2013. Also, the law states the burden of proof is on the state to prove you violated the statute, so the way most people up here see it is if the mag is dated (or not dated at all) before 6/2013 you're golden. The civil disobedience and ways people are getting around the ban are legion, I could do a whole topic on that :biggrinjester:

Also, it is worth noting many of the sheriff's here sued (unsuccessfully) to have the law overturned, and a majority of them (rural and suburban mostly) have said they will not enforce it.

IANAL, but if your dates are good and you're from out of state high-caps are fine here with one exception. City and county of Denver does have an assault weapons ban, if you slap a mag over 20 rounds into that gun you have just manufactured an assault weapon, so if you stay in Denver and want your AR to protect your hotel room, you might want to bring along a 20 for it, and leave the 'happy stick' for your Glock in the car.

Also, remember you cannot have a loaded long gun in a motor vehicle, that is related to our hunting laws.

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