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Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

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Post by OldCurlyWolf » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:59 am

Since most WM's sell Wine & Beer and probably some in NM also sell Liquor, they may be mistakenly be posting because it is a felony in NM to open carry in any place that sells liquor and also to carry in any manner where booze is sold for on premise consumption under certain conditions.
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Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

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Post by WildBill » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:08 am

RoyGBiv wrote:
WildBill wrote:From Wikipedia
Gallup is known as the "Heart of Indian Country" because it is in the middle of the Navajo reservation and home to many tribes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallup,_N ... mographics
It has close proximity to Native American reservations,
Looking at a Google map and at the Federal Lands map... I don't believe the land the WalMart is on is tribal... Possible, but believe not.
http://nationalmap.gov/small_scale/prin ... nds/NM.pdf
Gallup Federal.jpg
If I would have know those crime stats when we were deciding where to stop, I likely would have kept driving.
I certainly would not have gone to WalMart at 11:PM... :lol:
From the map, it appears that Gallup is not on reservation land. :thumbs2:
I was a bit surprised that Walmart would build on a reservation or that a reservation would let Walmart build on it.
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Post by Soccerdad1995 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:11 am

ScottDLS wrote:This is kind of unusual, since Walmart has a policy of not posting their stores, but perhaps because it's in Indian Country (am I allowed to say that or is it a microagression?)
I consider the term microaggression to be a macroaggression. So consider me offended.
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Post by ScottDLS » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:35 am

Soccerdad1995 wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:This is kind of unusual, since Walmart has a policy of not posting their stores, but perhaps because it's in Indian Country (am I allowed to say that or is it a microagression?)
I consider the term microaggression to be a macroaggression. So consider me offended.
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Post by RoyGBiv » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:52 pm

OldCurlyWolf wrote:Since most WM's sell Wine & Beer and probably some in NM also sell Liquor, they may be mistakenly be posting because it is a felony in NM to open carry in any place that sells liquor and also to carry in any manner where booze is sold for on premise consumption under certain conditions.
My read of NM law is that carry is not prohibited if liquor/beer/wine sales are not for on premise consumption.
I'd be surprised if Walmart was not up to speed on the local law.

http://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/ ... tion30-7-3
See sections 4 & 4a

Interesting side note... according to 30-7-3 /4b, no carry in a restaurant that serves any liquor at all, and if the restaurant serves beer/wine, carry is prohibited by statute if beer/wine are 40% of sales or higher (compared to our 51%).
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Post by Soccerdad1995 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:03 pm

ScottDLS wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:This is kind of unusual, since Walmart has a policy of not posting their stores, but perhaps because it's in Indian Country (am I allowed to say that or is it a microagression?)
I consider the term microaggression to be a macroaggression. So consider me offended.
At least I didn't say (the name of that football team in Washington, DC)... For myself, I prefer the term "person of pallor" in recognition of my Norwegian (paternal) grandmother. Other grandma was a Mexican immigrant...so maybe I'm "tan". :biggrinjester:
I share a similar heritage. Norwegian (paternal) grandmother, but Spanish (paternal) grandfather, and the rest a mix of various European nationalities. Don't get me started on the "White" Sox. As if it's not bad enough to mention race they have to equate us to a bunch of dirty socks? I need to go find a safe space.
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Post by C-dub » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:40 pm

RoyGBiv wrote:
OldCurlyWolf wrote:Since most WM's sell Wine & Beer and probably some in NM also sell Liquor, they may be mistakenly be posting because it is a felony in NM to open carry in any place that sells liquor and also to carry in any manner where booze is sold for on premise consumption under certain conditions.
My read of NM law is that carry is not prohibited if liquor/beer/wine sales are not for on premise consumption.
I'd be surprised if Walmart was not up to speed on the local law.

http://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/ ... tion30-7-3
See sections 4 & 4a

Interesting side note... according to 30-7-3 /4b, no carry in a restaurant that serves any liquor at all, and if the restaurant serves beer/wine, carry is prohibited by statute if beer/wine are 40% of sales or higher (compared to our 51%).
I thought I read where it had to be at least 60% when looking around for their sign requirements earlier today or yesterday.
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Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

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Post by RoyGBiv » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:24 am

C-dub wrote:
RoyGBiv wrote:
OldCurlyWolf wrote:Since most WM's sell Wine & Beer and probably some in NM also sell Liquor, they may be mistakenly be posting because it is a felony in NM to open carry in any place that sells liquor and also to carry in any manner where booze is sold for on premise consumption under certain conditions.
My read of NM law is that carry is not prohibited if liquor/beer/wine sales are not for on premise consumption.
I'd be surprised if Walmart was not up to speed on the local law.

http://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/ ... tion30-7-3
See sections 4 & 4a

Interesting side note... according to 30-7-3 /4b, no carry in a restaurant that serves any liquor at all, and if the restaurant serves beer/wine, carry is prohibited by statute if beer/wine are 40% of sales or higher (compared to our 51%).
I thought I read where it had to be at least 60% when looking around for their sign requirements earlier today or yesterday.
Minimum 60% food sales or more = ok for carry in a beer/wine licensed premise. So, maximum 39.999% beer/wine.
The language is a bit convoluted.
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Post by JustSomeOldGuy » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:37 pm

1) gonna get myself another necroposter award.....
2) photo of the sign on the Gallup Walmart. If you do the 'CTRL+' thing, it expands the image to where you can read the fine print at top; which I take to mean that with a permit, you CAN carry concealed there.

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Post by pbwalker » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:26 pm

RoyGBiv wrote: I certainly would not have gone to WalMart at 11:PM... :lol:
That's just a good practice no matter the location! :lol:
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Post by Pete92FS » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:22 pm

JustSomeOldGuy wrote:1) gonna get myself another necroposter award.....
2) photo of the sign on the Gallup Walmart. If you do the 'CTRL+' thing, it expands the image to where you can read the fine print at top; which I take to mean that with a permit, you CAN carry concealed there.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Walma ... 08.7690267
I like the way they tried to spell Exception at the top of the sign. :roll:
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Post by The Annoyed Man » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:14 pm

RoyGBiv wrote:
WildBill wrote:From Wikipedia
Gallup is known as the "Heart of Indian Country" because it is in the middle of the Navajo reservation and home to many tribes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallup,_N ... mographics
It has close proximity to Native American reservations,
Looking at a Google map and at the Federal Lands map... I don't believe the land the WalMart is on is tribal... Possible, but believe not.
http://nationalmap.gov/small_scale/prin ... nds/NM.pdf
Gallup Federal.jpg
If I would have know those crime stats when we were deciding where to stop, I likely would have kept driving.
I certainly would not have gone to WalMart at 11:PM... :lol:
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Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

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Post by Keith B » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:16 pm

JustSomeOldGuy wrote:1) gonna get myself another necroposter award.....
2) photo of the sign on the Gallup Walmart. If you do the 'CTRL+' thing, it expands the image to where you can read the fine print at top; which I take to mean that with a permit, you CAN carry concealed there.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Walma ... 08.7690267
This is New Mexico's version of Texas' Blue Sign. Carry away with a permit. No permit, no carry. The advantage of having a permit vs. permit-less carry.
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Post by Dp-12 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:31 pm

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It said "No Firearms Allowed on these Premises"...
Such signs have the force of law in NM.
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Which is why our 30.06 and 30.07 signs in Texas is SO appreciated by me.

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Post by Keith B » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:55 pm

Dp-12 wrote:"
It said "No Firearms Allowed on these Premises"...
Such signs have the force of law in NM.
"

Which is why our 30.06 and 30.07 signs in Texas is SO appreciated by me.
Nope. Zoom in and read fine print at top. Permit holder is allowed.
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