SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

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SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

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Post by tornado » Tue May 19, 2009 12:58 pm

(Thanks to Douva for posting about this in another thread!)

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Post by tornado » Tue May 19, 2009 1:01 pm

Anybody know how the 2nd reading roll call vote went? It's not on the bill history (link above) page yet.

EDIT: The roll call vote that I originally thought was the 2nd reading vote was actually today's vote to suspend the rules. Today was the 2nd reading.

Good news: a roll call vote just shot down amendment number 1, which I gathered was about letting regents limit carry in dorms (I came in late).

Now floor amendment 2 is coming up. It's more about dorms. Letting students or parents request that they get a floor or a wing or a dorm that doesn't allow carry.
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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

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Post by tornado » Tue May 19, 2009 1:04 pm

Hold on while we clap for some students before they leave...

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Post by tornado » Tue May 19, 2009 1:05 pm

They're withdrawing #2 to amend it to say "room or suite" (I think -- can't devote ALL my attention to this right now).


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Post by Douva » Tue May 19, 2009 1:07 pm

tornado wrote:Anybody know how the 2nd reading roll call vote went? It's not on the bill history (link above) page yet.

Good news: a roll call vote just shot down amendment number 1, which I gathered was about letting regents limit carry in dorms (I came in late).

Now floor amendment 2 is coming up. It's more about dorms. Letting students or parents request that they get a floor or a wing or a dorm that doesn't allow carry.
The second reading roll call vote was 21 to 9. We squeaked by. There is no way of knowing yet how each Senator voted.

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Post by tornado » Tue May 19, 2009 1:09 pm

Leticia Van de Putte (D-San Antone) is the author of both amendments offered so far.

Bill author Jeff Wentworth (R-San Antone) is against both of the amendments.

Amendment 3 is expected to be the amended amendment 2.

Woo-hoo -- more kids to clap for! :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

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Post by Purplehood » Tue May 19, 2009 1:11 pm

As a bad-guy I certainly would want to know which dorm or wing is a "gun-free" zone.

Bah, sorry. Just venting.
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Post by tornado » Tue May 19, 2009 1:13 pm

Amendment 3 is up -- "room or suite."

Sen. Van de Putte understands that the university would not know if a student has a CHL, but seems to think that one roommate would be able to figure out if another roommate has one. Uh -- what?

Sen. Dan Patrick is discussing that now.

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Post by tornado » Tue May 19, 2009 1:24 pm

Amendment 3 failed in a roll call vote 19-11 (I think -- also a conversation going on by my desk).

Sen. Lucio has amendment 4 (allows a school to "opt out" of carry if a study by the THECB shows "gun violence" goes up). Wentworth is asking him questions now.


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Post by Kalrog » Tue May 19, 2009 1:27 pm

There may yet be a little life! :hurry:

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Post by TexasComputerDude » Tue May 19, 2009 1:28 pm

if campus carry passes we have a heck of a lot of thank you notes to write...
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Post by scott_dfw » Tue May 19, 2009 1:29 pm

I wish that senators had to be articulate in order to be allowed to speak.

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Post by scott_dfw » Tue May 19, 2009 1:29 pm

TexasComputerDude wrote:if campus carry passes we have a heck of a lot of thank you notes to write...
MOST definitely!!
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Post by tornado » Tue May 19, 2009 1:32 pm

Amendment 4 has been tabled in a roll call vote 18-12.

(For the record, amendments 1 & 3 were both technically "tabled.")

Floor amendment 5 would let colleges & universities prohibit carry on any premises where alcohol is sold or served for on-premises consumption, hospitals and meetings of the governing board. Whitworth has moved to table.

EDIT: tabled 18-12

#6: make it clear there's no exception for bar, polling place or governing board meeting.

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Post by Keith B » Tue May 19, 2009 1:35 pm

A lot of amendments trying to gut this and so far the bill has a pretty tough stomach. Opponents are going to try to amend this to death, but hopefully it will be able to survive.
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