UPS Refusing Shipments from Brownell's and Ghost Guns

[Excaliber]

Another "private company" is executing the Biden regime's agenda.

Details here.

[G.A. Heath]

While I am not a lawyer, I suspect that if UPS actually seizes and destroys a package tendered to them that there will be major ramifications.

[philip964]

If I was a trial attorney, I think this would be a case I could make some money on.

Wouldn’t it be like refusing to ship Korans to Muslims or Bibles to Christians.

[Soccerdad1995]

If I was a trial attorney, I think this would be a case I could make some money on.

Wouldn’t it be like refusing to ship Korans to Muslims or Bibles to Christians.

Or a private carrier refusing to ship condoms...

[wheelgun1958]

Perhaps they should ban shipment of abortifacients.

[LDB415]

Guess I'll start shopping by who they use for shipping first from now on.

[crazy2medic]

If a shipping company take the item you ordered, how is that Not Theft?

[Excaliber]

If a shipping company take the item you ordered, how is that Not Theft?

It clearly is theft.

I suspect it is also a violation of what makes a common carrier a common carrier.

See common carrier regulations on preferences here.

Of course that may not mean much under Mister Mom's administration of the transportation department and Garland's selective prosecution policies where only wrongdoers get protection.

[The Annoyed Man]

If a shipping company take the item you ordered, how is that Not Theft?

It clearly is theft.

On Twitter, when this story first broke, someone told me that it had actually happened to him, and he didn’t get the package until 2 weeks after it was shipped. Turns out that a woke UPS employee, thinking that it was a box of ammo, had taken the package home and soaked it in a bucket of water for a week before bringing it back and reinserting it into the shipping stream. It was a box of special screws for some antique rifles. Don’t know what happened to the employee…likely nothing.

[chamberc]

If a shipping company take the item you ordered, how is that Not Theft?

So long as they credit or return the item to the shipper (their customer, not you), it's perfectly fine. Remember, when you order a product, YOU are not the shipping company's customer, the shipper is.

[03Lightningrocks]

If a shipping company take the item you ordered, how is that Not Theft?

It clearly is theft.

On Twitter, when this story first broke, someone told me that it had actually happened to him, and he didn’t get the package until 2 weeks after it was shipped. Turns out that a woke UPS employee, thinking that it was a box of ammo, had taken the package home and soaked it in a bucket of water for a week before bringing it back and reinserting it into the shipping stream. It was a box of special screws for some antique rifles. Don’t know what happened to the employee…likely nothing.

The employee thought it was a box of ammo? UPS is one of only two carriers that permit the shipment of ammo. There are special rules on labeling and the package can only be picked up from your home by the driver(at additional charge) or you have to take it to an actual UPS shipping facility, (not a ups store). I sold approximately 30K rounds of, .223 and 5.62x39, ammo between November last year and March this year. All shipped via UPS. All was delivered. All plainly stated "Wolf Ammo" on the box. Any employee at UPS that saw the box would have no doubt it is ammo. If an employee took it upon themselves to take a package home, it would be a felony. No?

[03Lightningrocks]

As usual, I find myself "out dated". I thought selling any firearm to someone from another state required an FFL do the transfer. Maybe I am not up to speed on what exactly is a "ghost gun"? I had no idea I could purchase a complete "gun" with no serial number anywhere on the "gun".

[Soccerdad1995]

As usual, I find myself "out dated". I thought selling any firearm to someone from another state required an FFL do the transfer. Maybe I am not up to speed on what exactly is a "ghost gun"? I had no idea I could purchase a complete "gun" with no serial number anywhere on the "gun".

You can't. They are referencing chunks of polymer and/or metal that have some pieces cut out of them. People use these raw materials to manufacture things, including firearms.

[03Lightningrocks]

As usual, I find myself "out dated". I thought selling any firearm to someone from another state required an FFL do the transfer. Maybe I am not up to speed on what exactly is a "ghost gun"? I had no idea I could purchase a complete "gun" with no serial number anywhere on the "gun".

You can't. They are referencing chunks of polymer and/or metal that have some pieces cut out of them. People use these raw materials to manufacture things, including firearms.

Sounds like there are certain folks using the term "ghost guns" to create a "boogie man under the bed" type argument.

[jmorris]

As usual, I find myself "out dated". I thought selling any firearm to someone from another state required an FFL do the transfer. Maybe I am not up to speed on what exactly is a "ghost gun"? I had no idea I could purchase a complete "gun" with no serial number anywhere on the "gun".

You can't. They are referencing chunks of polymer and/or metal that have some pieces cut out of them. People use these raw materials to manufacture things, including firearms.

Sounds like there are certain folks using the term "ghost guns" to create a "boogie man under the bed" type argument.

It's a lower or frame that is up to 80% completed. You complete the milling and add all the assorted pieces. Once completed you cannot sell or transfer it because of the lack of a serial number.

According to certain people all it takes to finish is a multitool and every gangsta has one or several.

https://www.80-lower.com/80-percent-lower/