Angry at Sprouts!

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Re: Angry at Sprouts!

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Post by EEllis » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:34 pm

Oldgringo wrote: Really? When it comes time to produce a copy of the correspondence....
What, like to a court or something? You then turn over a giant electronic file with all the paperwork. I did a contract job for Chevron last year and everything ends up stored electronically. Originals may get filed but are not used for any real purpose and e-mail gets precedence.


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Re: Angry at Sprouts!

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Post by el_chupo_ » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:44 pm

Exactly as noted, there is no issue with producing an electronic copy of the correspondence for any legal requirements.

Im sure some places have different requirements, but I know how picky our Compliance department is for maintaining records for legal and reporting purposes, and we have not been storing actual paper docs for many years. Even before we went electronic, we were storing a lot of stuff on microfiche, and we moved to full electronic about 10-12 years ago, finally getting rid of all of our older methods and getting things converted to electronic.

I am not saying that writing a letter is bad, or wont get the appropriate response (whatever that ends up being), just stating that email is not only faster and easier for the consumer, it greatly speeds up handling time, ease of correspondence and storage, and is still considered "written correspondence", at least for us.

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Post by Oldgringo » Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:02 pm

Granted e-mail is by far the easiest and most contemporary for both sender and receiver. It is also the easiest to have "never been received".

Otherwise, y'all win. :leaving

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Post by mojo84 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:33 pm

I don't put that much faith in the USPS. Keep in mind, you can request delivery and read receipts on email.

Bottom line, use whichever method you feel most comfortable using. The main thing is to speak up.
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Post by 92f-fan » Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:01 pm

Oldgringo wrote:Granted e-mail is by far the easiest and most contemporary for both sender and receiver. It is also the easiest to have "never been received".

Otherwise, y'all win. :leaving
And JUST like a return receipt paper letter there are ways to legally certify receipt of email as well
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Post by EEllis » Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:29 pm

Oldgringo wrote:Granted e-mail is by far the easiest and most contemporary for both sender and receiver. It is also the easiest to have "never been received".

Otherwise, y'all win. :leaving
With many companies that isn't true. It is easier to throw mail out than delete email because all emails are automaticlly saved.

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Post by jmra » Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:22 pm

Taken at the Sprouts in Cedar Hill today
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Post by Oldgringo » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:17 pm

jmra wrote:Taken at the Sprouts in Cedar Hill today
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It appears that they don't care for CHL business? Has anyone noted this on the 30.06 site?


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Post by mtn44 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:04 pm

Yes it has been noted on the 30.06 site. I got notified a few weeks ago as the Cedar Hill location is near me.

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Post by Dragonfighter » Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:18 pm

mtn44 wrote:Yes it has been noted on the 30.06 site. I got notified a few weeks ago as the Cedar Hill location is near me.
Agreed, I got notified when Flower Mound was posted.

As far as email vs post, I have won a suit (still not paid though) based almost entirely off electronically signed documents and email correspondence. OTOH, I was intent on sending my gripe via post. I sent it to the CEO Andrew Jhawar who took over in April this year (hmmmm) and never even got an email saying thank you for the correspondence. On this my wife suggested I resend it to Shon Boney, co founder (certified, return receipt) with cc's going to other board members. Her thinking being that possibly the CEO's Indian lineage contributed to his anti-gun stance and unresponsiveness. I'll report back if I get anywhere with the reposts.
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Re: Angry at Sprouts!

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Post by GEM-Texas » Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:13 pm

I have just noticed their signs the other day in San Antonio, they went up over the weekend.

Besides e-mailing them, I suggest facebook - https://www.facebook.com/SproutsFarmersMarket?ref=ts" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and yelp.com reviews.

I talked to the local manager and he said many employees were against the signs.

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Post by sooperdooper » Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:01 pm

I checked out their facebook page and there was a lot of activity I posted the picture of the sign as well as commented. Soon after they released a snipit about their policy. It has really stirred up the nest. Hopefully they see the light.
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Post by chasfm11 » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:00 pm

sooperdooper wrote:I checked out their facebook page and there was a lot of activity I posted the picture of the sign as well as commented. Soon after they released a snipit about their policy. It has really stirred up the nest. Hopefully they see the light.
Not likely. I suspect that the management team is true Lib and they would allow the chain to fold before giving in to allowing concealed carry in their stores.

We haven't been back since the signs went up. Checking their parking lot, I don't see a noticeable difference
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Re: Angry at Sprouts!

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Post by austex58 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:11 pm

Hi Guys,

I was a faithful Sprouts customer until their policy change. I sent an email and received the same response ya'll did from Susan Cameron, but mine was addressed to (Customer Name). So, I replied with the following:

Wow, thanks for the form letter. As (Customer Name), I feel all warm and fuzzy that you really thought about my comments and took the time to respond. You clearly do not value my patronage or my safety. As long as you have your "anti-safety, only criminals can be armed in your store policy in force", I will not be back. I will spend my grocery budget with stores that recognize me as a law abiding adult who has chosen to be responsible for protecting myself and my loved ones.

On a side note, I went to the grand opening of the newest Whole Foods in Austin tonight. Really a great store and without the silly anti-gun policy. So, no I won't be back and be part of your delusional family, but thanks
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Today I got the following response from Susan Cameron:

Sorry I missed changing that. We are given this response from our legal department.

I do a report for the Chief officers every 2 weeks with the feedback we get on this policy, pro and con. It is not like we disregard the concerns and comments of our customers, personally I would never work for a company that did not care and I have been in this industry for 43 years.

Thank you for replying to me,


What is maybe an encouraging sign is they talk about the ramifications of this policy every 2 weeks. I would suggest we keep up the emails, letters and Facebook comments. Who knows, maybe we can force a Policy change.
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Re: Angry at Sprouts!

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Post by WildBill » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:29 pm

austex58 wrote:On a side note, I went to the grand opening of the newest Whole Foods in Austin tonight. Really a great store and without the silly anti-gun policy. So, no I won't be back and be part of your delusional family, but thanks.
I think that this kind of statement is counterproductive. :tiphat:
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