Jury duty today- Texas CHL Forum blocked

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Post by philip964 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:51 am

Texas CHL Forum is a website that is blocked in the Jury Assembly Building in Harris County.

I am assuming I am prohibited from carrying.

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Post by Keith B » Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:52 am

philip964 wrote:Texas CHL Forum is a website that is blocked in the Jury Assembly Building in Harris County.

I am assuming I am prohibited from carrying.
Uh, yeah, it's jury duty for court, which courts are off-limits. You will more than likely have to go through metal detectors as well.
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Post by MeMelYup » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:07 am

Did they give an explanation as to why the forum is blocked? Is Facebook or any of the other type forums blocked?


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Post by philip964 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:08 am

Yep, metal detectors. Not in basement now so I have cell service so I can post on this site.


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Post by philip964 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:11 am

MeMelYup wrote:Did they give an explanation as to why the forum is blocked? Is Facebook or any of the other type forums blocked?
It said the website dealt with weapons.

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Reason: The Websense category "Weapons" is filtered.
URL: search.php?search_id=active_topics" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:23 am

What county? It's one think for a private company to block whatever they wish, but governmental action is censorship and possibly violates the First Amendment.

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Post by bubba84 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:07 am

How is their limiting what you can view THROUGH their provided WiFi a violation of the First? Are they obligated to provide WiFi? If they turned it off entirely would that also be a violation? I dont see it violating anything.

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Post by Javier730 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:23 am

I agree with bubba84. It think it would only be a violation if they tried censoring what you were looking at on your personal device, unless of course its something obscene or graphic which would be illegal in public.
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Post by mojo84 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:33 am

Charles L. Cotton wrote:What county? It's one think for a private company to block whatever they wish, but governmental action is censorship and possibly violates the First Amendment.

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Looks like Harris County.

I too see it as a problem. If the are going to provide WiFi, they shouldn't be able to block what they want in my opinion. I know public school districts do this also.
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Post by G.A. Heath » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:38 am

If there is public access to the WiFi then they can only censor specific types of content (such as obscene content). Simply turning off the public access WiFi would solve the censorship problem. If the WiFi is for employee use then censoring content becomes more grey. If they permit only work related websites that would be OK. If they permit general internet use but block access to a specific political party or candidate that is not. It's kinda like the advertising on the sides of a city owned bus, they can't let Bloomberg advertise "For a safer America" but prevent the NRA from advertising Eddie Eagle.
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Post by mojo84 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:50 am

I'm sure they'll claim "weapons" are offensive.
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Post by Cedar Park Dad » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:55 am

Moral of the story - avoid jury duty?

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Post by Schleprock » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:57 am

bubba84 wrote:How is their limiting what you can view THROUGH their provided WiFi a violation of the First? Are they obligated to provide WiFi? If they turned it off entirely would that also be a violation? I dont see it violating anything.
They are not obligated and it is entirely their prerogative to do so but it would seem to be a violation in that it limits a specific class of information a municipal or county government deems unacceptable from being viewed. They seem to have blanketed the public WiFi server with restrictions typical in a workplace setting which is, for work some could argue, a reasonable restriction. I would liken it to restricting Hinduism or any religion other than Christianity on the server or only allowing "friendly breeds of dogs" searches as opposed to pit bulls since they are "known to be aggressive".

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Post by Vol Texan » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:01 pm

And this is why I use a personal VPN service...no matter where I am in the world (and I do travel to a lot of sketchy places), I can open my Witopia service and appear as if I'm surfing in Dallas, Miami, or even Prague, if I so choose. Local servers or monitors have no view of what I'm doing at that point.

Why is this important? It's good for remaining anonymous while viewing this CHL forum in 2nd Amendment free zones such as China, Nigeria, and Washington, DC. Plus, it adds a layer of security for me if I happen to interact with my bank, credit cards, or other places with personally identifying information online.

As a side note: you'd be amazed at how differently the results show up in Google when searching for the same thing from different countries.
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Post by rotor » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:41 pm

bubba84 wrote:How is their limiting what you can view THROUGH their provided WiFi a violation of the First? Are they obligated to provide WiFi? If they turned it off entirely would that also be a violation? I dont see it violating anything.
When you say "their provided WIFI" are you suggesting that they are paying for it. I thought that I was paying for it. This is a taxpayer run facility and not a private business. It is most probable though that they block sites for their employees ( porn, you-tube, etc) to keep bandwith use ( and to censor) and they just apply that to the public as well. Hopefully they have a sign-in when you try to use WIFI that explains that it is not open to all sites. Otherwise the public would be downloading Netflix movies and overload the WIFI. So, I can see limiting sites for the purpose of not overloading the system but I am against censorship on the basis of ideology. Perhaps Lois Lerner has had some influence here.

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