DOJ Reclassifies Bump Stocks as Machine Guns

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DOJ Reclassifies Bump Stocks as Machine Guns

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Post by locke_n_load » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:39 am

Not much detail yet, but this can't be good.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/0 ... hine-guns/
The U.S. Department of Justice formally submitted a regulation on Saturday to ban “bump stocks,” a modification to high-capacity rifles that lets them fire like an automatic weapon.
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Post by Oldgringo » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:42 am

oops!
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Post by Oldgringo » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:45 am

This may not be an automatic, but this guy has really got it goin' on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2IOZ-5Nk5k

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Post by spectre » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:46 am

It’s ok guys, we’ll get national reciprocity and suppressors removed from the NFA any day now.
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Post by locke_n_load » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:02 pm

The official "notice", no new info though.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/departme ... ump-stocks
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Post by Keith B » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:11 pm

We all knew this was coming when Trump made he Executive Order. The mistake I think they are making is not allowing a short time period to allow existing or future purchase/ownership an NFA registerable item. That would be at least a compromise for those that may already have them.
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Post by Syntyr » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:12 pm

Uh ohhhh. I have built in bumpstocks! Are my fingers illegal?

http://youtu.be/7RdAhTxyP64
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Post by Keith B » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:14 pm

Syntyr wrote:Uh ohhhh. I have built in bumpstocks! Are my fingers illegal?

Yes! You need to cut them off immediately or be faced with the wrath of the ATF (Automatic Trigger Fingers) agents!! :evil2:
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Post by mojo84 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:23 pm

Syntyr wrote:Uh ohhhh. I have built in bumpstocks! Are my fingers illegal?

http://youtu.be/7RdAhTxyP64
These kind of videos will just make them that much thirstier to ban semi-auto rifles. When people find a a way around the intent of a law or ban and then flaunt it, it just keeps the cat and mouse chase going.


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Post by jason812 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:26 pm

It's Saturday, most people are enjoying spring break, its nice outside, time to plant flowers, take the kids to the zoo, go camping... perfect time to sneak in new regulations. Wonder what else is coming? I bet it's not removing suppressors or sbr's from the NFA, or national reciprocity.


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Post by jason812 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:29 pm

mojo84 wrote:
Syntyr wrote:Uh ohhhh. I have built in bumpstocks! Are my fingers illegal?

http://youtu.be/7RdAhTxyP64
These kind of videos will just make them that much thirstier to ban semi-auto rifles. When people find a a way around the intent of a law or ban and then flaunt it, it just keeps the cat and mouse chase going.
Yes and then you get the Australian idea. If semi autos are going to be illegal, might as well go full illegal.


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Post by K.Mooneyham » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:07 pm

It's not a done deal yet. The process has been started, yes, but still not complete. I seem to remember something about the Obama administration wanting to ban all lead ammo for the tree-hugger types. Did that make it through the process? What about the ban on "green-tip" ammo? Sometimes, they might really want something, but that doesn't mean they always get what they want.

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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:47 pm

spectre wrote:It’s ok guys, we’ll get national reciprocity and suppressors removed from the NFA any day now.
Obviously you fell into a Rip Van Winkle deep sleep, so let me advise you of a couple of events that changed the political landscape. On Oct. 1st, 58 people were murdered and 851 were injured at a Las Vegas outdoor concert when a nutjob opened up with AR-15s using bump-stocks. On Feb. 14th, another nutjob shot up a high school killing 17 students and teachers and wounding 17 more. The media and the Democrat Party have been spewing lies ever sense. I'm sure if you had known about these events and the subsequent media frenzy, you would better understand why it's going to take longer to pass pro-gun legislation in Washington.

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Post by Beiruty » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:11 pm

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spectre wrote:It’s ok guys, we’ll get national reciprocity and suppressors removed from the NFA any day now.
Obviously you fell into a Rip Van Winkle deep sleep, so let me advise you of a couple of events that changed the political landscape. On Oct. 1st, 58 people were murdered and 851 were injured at a Las Vegas outdoor concert when a nutjob opened up with AR-15s using bump-stocks. On Feb. 14th, another nutjob shot up a high school killing 17 students and teachers and wounding 17 more. The media and the Democrat Party have been spewing lies ever sense. I'm sure if you had known about these events and the subsequent media frenzy, you would better understand why it's going to take longer to pass pro-gun legislation in Washington.

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Post by Beiruty » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:13 pm

What if the new regulation was challenged in court and the plaintiff won?!
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